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2023.03.28 00:57 m3s4 The ultimate speculation of Mahathir VS Anwar 1998
I've always wondered on what really happened that led Mahathir to such extremes in deposing Anwar around the financial crisis of 1997. I was a 16 yo at that time and the news of it was everywhere, not just that because it was the first time I've ever heard of anyone so high up in gov being fired, but the impression was anwar and mahathir seemed to have a really good working relationship. And on top of that were the sodomy charges which was unheard of in our political landscape up to that point. Being quite oblivious to politics at that point everyone I knew didn't seem to have an answer, and up to this day everyone seems to have their own twists speculating what had happened, among rumors throughout the years I heard mainly broke down to
Since Anwar has risen to PMX, the reactions of the opposition and previous leaders seem to support my understanding of the motivations behind Anwars sodomy accusations. Here is what I've surmised to
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- AI had such leanings when he was younger from close acquaintances
- It was more the corruption and abuse of power and sodomy was tacked on to ensure "greater good" prevailed
- It's all false and was politically motivated, but why?
Since Anwar has risen to PMX, the reactions of the opposition and previous leaders seem to support my understanding of the motivations behind Anwars sodomy accusations. Here is what I've surmised to
- During 97 financial crisis Anwar wanted an IMF bailout which would have enforced malaysia economy to be more transparent to ensure repayments can be made.
- Mahathir was very much against this plan as it would bring his whole crony capitalist system he spent the past 2 decades building and possibly expose him to wrong doings.
- Mahathir opted for his own pegging the ringgit and bailing big companies (many which are his cronies) and earned praise for recovering malaysia from the crisis faster than neighbouring nations. This would also ensure that his crony capitalist system would survive by not giving into IMF.
- BN has been in power for way too long at this point and the culture of corruption and abuse of power that Mahathir left behind continued when his predecessors took over and jailed Anwar again in 2014 as the opposition was gaining more ground each GE.
- Again when Mahathir cock blocked Anwar in 2020, fall of the PH gov, I have the numbers in 1998, 2008, 2013, 2020, 2022. It seemed like many politicians do not favor Anwar becoming PM, I conclude that it's because of his stance on corruption and cleaning the system many MPs fear implication in past transgressions.
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2023.03.27 23:59 Appropriate_Rush9934 I’m mourning my 4 year relationship and I don’t know why. Part 2
I spent a lot of nights crying myself to sleep over J. He was a very reserved, distant guy. I should add I am now 26 and he is 30. We have a 4 1/2 year age difference. The first year we were together was a lot of me begging for attention. All I wanted was for him to touch me or pay attention to me. But that just wasn’t him. He would never sit on the same couch as me when I was home. I would be on the long couch and he would lay on the loveseat even though he was too long for it. It could not have been comfortable. I asked him one day why he would never sit with me and he said, “Sorry I have two couches.” Once he was going to bed before I was so I tried to give him some extra loving, sensual kisses. (Was not trying to initiate sex, just wanted to show him I love him and felt passionately for him) and he physically pushed me away from him to get me to stop kissing him. He also never complimented me at this time. To the point where one of his family members pointed out that he never called me beautiful. He would occasionally tell me I was cute, but that was rare. He didn’t start calling me beautiful until 2 years into the relationship when I looked through his phone. (Wrong, I know.) and found his search history and Instagram/Twitter likes. Hundreds of naked women. Oh my god. It was the most horrifying thing I had ever seen. So many naked women that looked NOTHING like me. And from that very afternoon there were pictures of Belle Delphine’s ass with “fluids” all over it. I nearly vomited. At this point in time J had never liked a single Instagram photo of mine. Not ONE. And he certainly had never advertised me on his Instagram. He said that he had been a fan of hers for a long time and she finally made her first p*rn so he had to watch it. And this incident was one week after he forgot our 2 year anniversary and gave me a promise ring as a get out of jail free card. I will add, I tried to leave him 6 times throughout the relationship. Every single time he would cry and tell me he would change. And he would change to a certain extent. But after I would stay and get comfortable again things would go right back to how they were. And what sucks is eventually he did change a lot. He was drastically different from how he was in the beginning. But even so, his alcoholism was at an all time high and he made so many empty promises.
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2023.03.27 23:42 playspolitics House bill would have a chilling effect on free speech, constitutional experts warn.
 | House bill would have a chilling effect on free speech, constitutional experts warn.“There will be no protection for people like that, no protection for anybody who wants to get involved in their community or voice their opinion.” — Barbara Petersen, First Amendment lawyer“There will be no protection for people like that, no protection for anybody who wants to get involved in their community or voice their opinion.” — Barbara Petersen, First Amendment lawyer Florida Republican legislators now less than three weeks into the rule-making eight-week 2023 legislative session in Tallahassee are preparing to break faith with almost 60 years of American jurisprudence established by the Supreme Court in 1964 to protect free speech. Following a public discussion criticizing media and a call to legislators to rein in its excesses by Gov. Ron DeSantis last month, the legislators took steps to do that, introducing a bill that would allow politicians and other government officials or public figures to sue any critics they claim defamed them — without having to prove actual malice if the critics point to behaviors or events arguably unrelated to the job: extra marital affairs, for example, or possible business deals. In another striking break with precedence, the bill says anybody who accuses an official of discrimination “against another person or group because of their race, sex, sexual orientation, or gender identity” has automatically defamed them, whether or not the allegation is true. COURTESY PHOTO COURTESY PHOTO Not only that, but the bill would allow elected leaders and officials to claim “religious expression or belief,” or “scientific beliefs” — the phrase itself may be an oxymoron — and thus sue anyone who challenges publically their comments or actions aimed at lesbians, gays, bisexuals, transgender or queer people, or religious groups such as Jews or Muslims, for example. Such actions described as part of a leader’s religious expression or belief, or scientific belief, “cannot be considered evidence of discrimination” in the proposed bill. In addition, anonymous sources including background sources speaking off the record for news reports — of the kind that exposed the Nixon Watergate scandal in 1973 or first exposed former President Clinton’s affair with a White House intern in 1998 or played a role in reporting former President Trump’s extra marital liaisons in more recent years, for example — would be presumed false in any lawsuit. BERGERSON BERGERSON The losing side, defendants who criticized officials and got the thumbs down from the courts, would have to pay attorney fees and costs. That’s an English court-system tradition, not an American tradition. Here, each side pays its own costs, a condition much less likely to inhibit those without deep pockets from speaking their minds in public. Florida would be the first state in the nation to take such an action if legislators pass House Bill 991. Sponsored by Rep. Alex Andrade, R-2, and co-sponsored by Rep. Mike Beltran, R-70, the bill advanced through a civil justice subcommittee into the justice committee of the House last week. That’s part of the process that brings a bill forward to a vote, if committee members approve, in the full House of 120 legislators before the session wraps up on May 5. Bills passed in a full vote by the Legislature must then either be signed into law or vetoed by the governor. The new law would take effect July 1. “Gov. DeSantis likes the quote: ‘Freedoms are worth fighting for.’ Well, that’s right, they are. And this bill takes away freedoms I fought for — and a lot of other people around Florida did, too. To me 991 has more than a chilling effect on people’s right to say things — to be quoted or to blog or whatever.” — Dick Batchelor, former state legislator and now president of Dick Batchelor Management Group Inc. “Gov. DeSantis likes the quote: ‘Freedoms are worth fighting for.’ Well, that’s right, they are. And this bill takes away freedoms I fought for — and a lot of other people around Florida did, too. To me 991 has more than a chilling effect on people’s right to say things — to be quoted or to blog or whatever.” — Dick Batchelor, former state legislator and now president of Dick Batchelor Management Group Inc. A similar bill, SB 1220, had not been heard as of last week by any committee in the 40-member Senate. Neither Representatives Andrade, a graduate of the University of Florida School of Law, or Beltran, a Harvard Law School graduate like the governor, returned Florida Weekly requests for comment by press time. Gov. DeSantis, speaking last month, called for legislators to “protect” citizens from so-called false narratives created by media outlets. “When the media attacks me, I have a platform to fight back,” he said. “When they attack everyday citizens, these individuals don’t have the adequate recourses to fight back. It would contribute to an increase in ethics in the media and everything if they knew that if you smeared somebody — (if) it’s false and you didn’t do your homework — then you have to be held accountable for that.” Federal law, based on the 1964 case Sullivan vs. The New York Times, already provides recourse for public figures defamed by media who can demonstrate the presence of malice — an intentional lie. But it protects mistakes by media, made without malice. That’s what happened in the famous Supreme Court case, based not on a news story but an advertisement. A group of civil rights leaders criticizing the treatment of protestors by police in Montgomery, Alabama, in 1960 took out a full-page advertisement in The New York Times. The ad appeared in print with some minor errors. The Public Safety Commissioner in Montgomery, L.B. Sullivan, felt he’d been defamed and sued the paper, even though he wasn’t named in the ad. The case went to the Supreme Court, which decided by a vote of 9 to 0 that such errors, absent of malice, were protected speech. In other words, Americans criticizing public figures or agencies have a right to be wrong if their mistakes are not malicious, a view that free-speech apologists and critics of HB991 say protects Americans from all walks of life and political viewpoints — not just professional journalists on the left or right. It encourages citizens to speak freely and to express opinions in good faith, whether or not unpopular, without fear of reprisals that could break them personally or financially. Current situation Currently, for example, Fox News is relying on Sullivan vs. The New York Times to defend itself in a $1.6 billion defamation lawsuit filed by Dominion Voting Systems, Inc. Fox continued to broadcast claims the 2020 presidential election was stolen after broadcasters and managers knew those claims to be false, Dominion alleges, pointing to emails or texts from host Tucker Carlson and other Fox employees. Knowingly and therefore maliciously, Fox broadcast false claims that the company’s voting machines contributed to Trump’s 2020 loss, according to Dominion. Whether that is the case remains to be decided. But under traditional American law, if the Fox broadcasts were not malicious, even if they were wrong, the company cannot be punished for defamation. “Dominion and its private equity owners join a long line of public figures and corporations across the country that have long tried to silence the press and this lawsuit from Staple Street Capital-owned Dominion is nothing more than another flagrant attack on the First Amendment. FOX News will continue to fiercely protect the free press as a ruling in favor of Dominion would have grave consequences for journalism across this country,” a spokesperson for FOX News told Florida Weekly. A multitude of observers, meanwhile, have expressed both incredulity and alarm at HB991. “Anybody who comes within arm’s length of this bill can recognize that it’s an assault on democracy and free speech,” said Linda Penniman, a former Naples city councilwoman and now president of the board of trustees at the Florida Center for Government Accountability. “Because Florida has such a broad open records law this is particularly villainous for Floridians — to have our freedoms infringed upon this way. Of all the states, the Sunshine State should not be infringing on free speech,” she added. “The sponsors of this bill (Andrade and Beltran) must have missed the lecture in their law schools on constitutional law and the First Amendment,” said Peter Bergerson, a professor of public affairs at Florida Gulf Coast University. Early in his teaching career, Professor Bergerson had the late radio talk-show host Rush Limbaugh, then a young college student, in a government class he taught. Mr. Limbaugh made a highly successful career as a rightist political pundit, Professor Bergerson suggested, in part because of protections afforded to Americans by Sullivan vs. The New York Times. In Article 1, Section 4 of the Florida Constitution, “Freedom of Speech and Press,” these orders appear: “No law shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press. In all criminal prosecutions and civil actions for defamation the truth may be given in evidence.” The Florida Constitution reflects and echoes the U.S. Constitution. “I’m not an attorney, but I subscribe to opinions widely held by constitutional scholars and lawyers that this bill would violate the U.S. Constitution,” Professor Bergerson added. One of those lawyers, Carol LoCicero, a principal of the Tampa-based First Amendment law firm Thomas & LoCicero, traveled to Tallahassee to attend the meeting of the subcommittee on civil justice in the capitol last week, and offer some guidance. “What I said at the hearing was this: Most of 991 is unconstitutional. It violates our Florida Constitution as well. There are many aspects of this bill that are plain rotten public policy. “No state legislature can enact laws that violate the First Amendment. Here, we’re not just speculating about issues under the Bill of Rights. Here we have multiple bodies of case law well-tested out over decades, and this violates a lot of those cases.” Additionally, she pointed out, malice is not the only constitutional problem with the bill. “There’s a presumption in the bill that says, if you used an anonymous source that’s presumptively false. “Frist of all, anonymous sources often provide incredible critical information that prompts societal change, and gets at abuses of power — in all kinds of things. To say that’s presumptively false is just not good for society.” And not just in politics, she insisted. “There are all levels of anonymous sourcing, such as people who are regular sources who give reporters information on background, information that’s important just to understanding how agencies work. “And think of all the ‘Me Too’ cases and people who kept their mouths shut publically because they were afraid of powerful men like Harvey Weinstein and Matt Lauer and Charlie Rose. Anonymous sourcing is important.” First Amendment implications Barbara Petersen, a longtime First Amendment lawyer in Florida and now executive director of The Florida Center for Government Accountability, warned that “this bill will have a huge impact on everyday people who are just posting to their Facebook page or Twitter feed. It will have a huge impact on organizations and Fox news kind of people who make assertions and add opinions to their reporting quite regularly. It will get everybody. It’s not about big media.” One of the most troubling aspects of HB991 in her mind is the prescription to force a defendant who gets sued by a public figure under a new law, and loses, to pay potentially huge and prohibitive attorney fees and court costs. “They’re flipping things, it’s like who pays in a SLAPP lawsuit,” she said. SLAPP is an acronym for strategic lawsuit against public participation, an effort to intimidate or silence critics who can’t shoulder the costs of their own legal defense and have to drop their criticisms or censor themselves into silence. “One of the first articles we ever published was about a woman in the Florida Panhandle being sued for defamation by a developer because of a Facebook post,” Ms. Petersen said. “Rather than becoming a rarity, that will become common with this law. The developer had been known for building in flood zones, and somebody posted they’d bought a house from this developer. The woman’s Facebook reply was as innocuous as, ‘Oh, hope you have good flood insurance.’ “There will be no protection for people like that, no protection for anybody who wants to get involved in their community or voice their opinion.” Passage of the proposed HB991, she predicted, would result in Florida becoming a destination state not just for the tourists but for the litigious. At the Florida First Amendment Foundation, executive director Bobby Block, himself a Republican, he noted, worried that some people likely to be lit up by the high beams of this legislation haven’t gotten the message. “Conservatives in the media sector are very worried by this bill — they see it as a blunt instrument that will impact them as much as anybody else, or more,” he said. “But, they’re between a rock and hard place. On the one hand, they’re afraid of this bill if it becomes law. But on the other hand, don’t want to get crosswise with Gov. DeSantis. So they’re gently trying to send signals that they’re concerned, but trying to do it in a soft way.” That gives rise to his biggest concern. “Most worrying to me: All the news coverage isn’t really reaching conservative audiences. And so, in many ways, if this does force changes in programming and other things by media outlets, there will be a lot of very upset voters amongst the base in Florida because of how this could impact their viewing and listening habits.” On his report card, therefore, the bill fails. “The full bill is horrendous, a blunt instrument, largely unconstitutional. It would have a terrible impact on every media sector: traditional media, liberal media, mainstream and conservative media and social media. “Anybody who picks up a pen or a microphone or sits at a keyboard, would have to be extraordinarily careful with what they write, print or post.” Dick Batchelor, a former state legislator and now president of Dick Batchelor Management Group Inc. based in Orlando, consultants in business development, government affairs and public policy, also is a Marine Corps veteran of Vietnam and the bloody Tet offensive of 1968. He traveled to Tallahassee to deliver his opinion about the bill to legislators, in part because he takes it personally, he said. “Gov. DeSantis likes the quote: ‘Freedoms are worth fighting for.’ Well, that’s right, they are. And this bill takes away freedoms I fought for — and a lot of other people around Florida did, too. “To me 991 has more than a chilling effect on people’s right to say things — to be quoted or to blog or whatever. “One thing I learned in the Legislature: The Legislature does not have the power to pass legislation in direct conflict with federal law, I don’t care what it says. That’s No. 1. No. 2, the bill stymies the public’s right to speak out against officials.” HB991, together with what Mr. Batchelor and others call “the blogger bill” — that’s SB 1316 sponsored by Sen. Jason Brodeur, R-10, requiring bloggers who write about the governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general and some other officials to register with the state — would create a tyranny he calls Orwellian, a reference to George Orwell’s iconic look at tyranny in the novel, “1984.” “It’s Orwellian to have a package of legislation that in total basically disarms the public of their constitutional rights of free speech,” he said. “They already passed this in 2014 — Putin passed it, in Russia. Anybody blogging about Putin or the government has to register.” Gov. DeSantis has said he doesn’t support SB 1316. But in America, and in the Sunshine State, Mr. Batchelor asks, “Why not give as much respect and deference to the First Amendment as you do to the Second Amendment?” That’s not happening, though. Instead of insisting the government get its hands off American rights as it is doing in newly proposed legislation now before the legislature to take away the current requirement for gun permits, and to reduce the minimum age of gun purchases from 21 to 18, the government is putting its hands all over the First Amendment, seeking to control not guns but speech, he suggested. As Mr. Block at the Florida First Amendment Foundation concludes, “This is not a Democratic issue, a conservative issue, a liberal issue or a Republican issue. It’s a First Amendment American issue touching everybody. “Supporters of the Second Amendment are always careful to precisely parse the words in the Second Amendment. Let’s do that with the First Amendment.” One more thing, he noted: “The Founding Fathers did not write, ‘we want an accurate press, a trustworthy and hardworking press, a kind and compassionate press.’ Instead, they talked about a FREE press. The right to be sometimes idiotic, but free. An open marketplace of ideas that everyone could be part of. A mix of the sublime and the ridiculous. “We’ve been doing this for almost 250 years.” ¦ In the KNOW HB 991: Defamation, False Light, and Unauthorized Publication of Name or Likenesses GENERAL BILL by (Alex) Andrade ; (CO-INTRODUCERS) (Mike) Beltran Defamation, False Light, and Unauthorized Publication of Name or Likenesses; Provides that journalist’s privilege does not apply to defamation claims when defendant is professional journalist or media entity; revises provisions concerning venue for certain actions; provides for attorney fees & costs to prevailing plaintiffs in certain actions; specifies certain persons may not be considered public figures; provides certain allegations are defamatory per se; provides statutory damages to prevailing plaintiffs who are subject of such allegations; creates presumption that statement by anonymous source is presumptively false; provides public figure does not need to show actual malice to prevail in defamation action. Effective Date: 7/1/2023 What the state’s constitution says The Florida Constitution exists, according to the preamble, “to secure its benefits, perfect our government, insure domestic tranquility, maintain public order, and guarantee equal civil and political rights to all…” There are 12 articles. In Article I, “Declaration of Rights,” there are 27 sections that include definitions of “basic rights,” “religious freedom,” “the right to assemble,” and others. This is Section 4, Freedom of Speech and Press: “Every person may speak, write and publish sentiments on all subjects but shall be responsible for the abuse of that right. No law shall be passed to restrain or abridge the liberty of speech or of the press. In all criminal prosecutions and civil actions for defamation the truth may be given in evidence. If the matter charged as defamatory is true and was published with good motives, the party shall be acquitted or exonerated.” Lee County Legislative Delegation: Rep. Jenna Persons-Mulicka, R-78, chair. Tel: 850-717-5078 (Tallahassee); 239-338-2328 (Fort Myers). Sen. Kathleen Passidomo, R-28, senate president. Tel: 239-417-6205 (Naples), or 850-717-5082 (Tallahassee). Email: Passidomo. [email protected]. Sen. Ben Albritton: R-26. Tel: 850-487-5027 (Tallahassee); 941-575-5717 (Punta Gorda); 863-534-0073. Sen. Jonathan Martin, R-33. Tel: 850-487-5033 (Tallahassee); 239-338-2570 (Fort Myers). Rep. Mike Giallombardo, R-79. Tel: 850-717- 5079 (Tallahassee); 239-772-1291 (Cape Coral). Rep. Spencer Roach, R-76. Tel: 850-717-5076 (Tallahassee); 239-656-7790 (North Fort Myers). Rep. Adam Botana, R-80. Tel: 239-949-6279 (Bonita Springs), or 850-717-5080 (Tallahassee). Email: [email protected] Rep. Tiffany Esposito, R-77. Tel: 850-717-5077 (Tallahassee). No district contact is listed at the state website, www.myfloridahouse.gov. General contact form for the Lee delegation: www.leedelegation.com/contact.html Collier County Legislative Delegation: Rep. Bob Rommel, R-81, chair. Tel: 239-417- 6200 (Naples) or 850-717-5081. Email: Bob. [email protected] Sen. Ana Maria Rodriguez, R-39. Tel: 305- 470-2552 (Doral); 850-487-5040 (Tallahassee). Email: [email protected] flsenate.gov. Rep. Adam Botana, R-House District 80. Tel: 239-949-6279, or 850-717-5080. Email: [email protected]. Rep. Lauren Melo, R-82. Tel: 239-417-6270 (Naples); or 850-717-5082. Email: Lauren. [email protected]. Sen. Kathleen Passidomo, R-28, senate president. Tel: 239-417-6205 (Naples), or 850-717-5082 (Tallahassee). Email: Passidomo. [email protected]. Charlotte County Legislative Delegation: Sen. Ben Albritton, R-26. Tel: 850-487-5027 (Tallahassee); 941-575-5717 (Punta Gorda); 863-534-0073. Rep. Michael Grant, R-75: Tel: 850-717-5075 (Tallahassee); 941-613-0914 (Port Charlotte). Rep. Spencer Roach, R-76: Tel: 850-717-5076 (Tallahassee); 239-656-7790 (North Fort Myers). Palm Beach County Legislative Delegation: Sen. Tina Polsky, D-30. Tel: 850-487-5030 (Tallahassee); 561-443-8170 (Boca Raton). Email: [email protected]. Sen. Gayle Harrell, R-31. Tel: 850-487-5031 (Tallahassee); 772-221-4019 (Stuart). Email: [email protected]. Sen. Bobby Powell, D-24. Tel: 850-487-5024 (Tallahassee); 561-650-6880 (West Palm Beach). Email: [email protected]. gov. Sen. Lori Berman, D-26. Tel: 850-487-5026 (Tallahassee); 561-292-6014 (Boynton Beach). Email: [email protected]. Rep. John Snyder, R-86. Tel: 850-717-5086 (Tallahassee); 772-210-5626. Email: John. [email protected]. Rep. Mike Caruso, R-87. Tel: 850-717-5081 (Tallahassee); 561-650-1066 (West Palm Beach). Email: [email protected]. gov. Rep. David Silvers, D-89. Tel: 850-717-5089 (Tallahassee); 561-357-4824 (Lake Clarke Shores). Email: [email protected]. gov. Rep. Joseph Casello, D-90. Tel: 850-717- 5090 (Tallahassee); 561-292-6015 (Boynton Beach). Email: [email protected]. gov. Rep. Kelly Skidmore, D-92, Tel: 850-717-5092 (Tallahassee); 561-470-2086 (Boca Raton). Email: [email protected]. Rep. Katherine Waldron, D-93. Tel: 850-717- 5093 (Tallahassee); no district phone listed. Email: [email protected]. gov. |
2023.03.27 22:52 x_swagmaster69_x False Awakening?
I've never experienced something like this before and I found this blog in hopes of someone being able to explain something to me. I just woke up from this nap about 20 minutes ago, and I had a dream. In this dream, I KNEW I was dreaming, I told myself that. It started out fine but as time went on, things became more uncanny. My windows led to nowhere, the decor in my room was the decor I had years ago. It was as if all of a sudden each of my limbs were being pulled down by an unexplainable weight and I couldn't stay standing for more than a short period of time. I could hear my own ragged breath and my heart was pounding irregularly against my chest. I looked down at my hands, my surroundings, and it was as if everything surrounding me was... blurry? There was no detail to anything. I managed to pull myself through my doorway and there was a figure in the corner of the living room. It had no face, and resembled one of those uncanny drawings of faces scribbled out if that makes sense. A sudden sense of dread overtook my whole body and I remember screaming but nothing came out. I started begging "help, help, let me out of this" and attempting to drag myself to the bathroom. Aforementioned figure seemed to appear suddenly at my side and when it spoke, it sounded too much like my brother who doesn't live here anymore and hasn't for months. When I reached the bathroom, I splashed my face with water over and over and over again, begging to wake up. It was my dog jumping on the bed next to me that awoke me with a start. Although it was then when I realized I couldn't move a single muscle in my body. This fortunately only lasted a few seconds until my body moved on its own accord and I sat up and clutched my chest, trying to catch my breath. I looked down at my hands and I felt the skin, hoping it was real. The blurriness I mentioned that I saw in the dream was no longer there. As I sit typing this, I still feel that dread and the presence of someone or something. I just hope I'm really awake this time. I'm an 18 year old girl, finishing high-school and trade-school. I work part time at a convenience store and part time at the county jail which I just recently started. I'm naturally stressed all the time but something like this has never happened and I'm pretty healthy and try to get decent sleep. Is there any explanation for this? Does it just happen randomly? Or could something else be going on? Any information will help as I'm afraid to try and sleep again tonight.
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2023.03.27 22:50 CrimesFromTheEast [Disappearance] Florida 1994 : The mysterious Vanishing of Indo Guyanese Bird Breeders Moses & Lilawattie left their family baffled & led to the deaths of 500 exotic tropical birds
This case was feat. on Unsolved Mysteries & Disappeared.
Moses & Lila
Bhagwaniala Lall also known as Moses Lall was a 31-year-old Indo-Guyanese man who hailed from a prominent family that specialized in exotic birds & animals for export since the 1970’s. The Lall family lived in the Guyanese capital of Georgetown, where they bought animals from local trappers who scoured the jungles for various types of parrots & tropical birds. After a brief but unsuccessful stint as a student & model in Canada, he moved to the US in 1986 to start an exotic bird business. His mother Mahadi Lall set up a warehouse in Queens NY called Malabar Aviary Inc. where his family would export birds from Guyana & after the quarantine period Moses would then sell them off to pet stores in the US. His 35-year-old aunt Lilawattie Buerattan came over from Toronto to help with the business and she worked her magic to ensure the birds were well cared for & healthy. Together they took great care of the birds & business was slowly taking off. On some days they would sleep in the warehouse after a long day of caring for the birds. In 1987 they leased some land in Northern Florida and setup a sanctuary of sorts to keep the birds more comfortable in a warmer, tropical climate until they were sold. In 1992 they finally settled on a 5-acre ranch in Loxahatchee Florida where they could house & care for almost hundreds of birds at a time.
Moses would often travel to Africa to acquire exotic reptiles for his family business. He handled all the business dealings and his aunt handled the birds. The US passed a Wild Bird Conservation Act in 1993 banning import of exotic birds into the country so Moses & Lila could no longer rely on their family exports to acquire birds. They now shifted their business model & focused on breeding the birds they already had to sell in the US.
Lilawattie had a knack for taking care of the birds and soon ran a budding bird breeding program at the ranch. She would wake up early & hand feed the little hatchings, wean them and socialize them appropriately until they were healthy enough to be sold.
They hired Daljit Hari Gobin or Hari an Indo-Guyanese man who was a family acquaintance. They also hired another man called Roland Felix Eyoum the brother of an African reptile dealer Moses had met on one of his trips.
Abandoned Birds
One fine day on June 4th 1994, a delivery driver Daryl from a company called Bird Haven brought birdseed as scheduled to the Ranch and was surprised to find the gate locked & chained up. This was unusual, the ranch hands knew of the delivery dates and left the gate open for him every week so he could drive up and deliver the sacks right at the doorstep.
After 8 days Tim Tegreeny owner of Bird Haven came over to take another look at the ranch & to his utter surprise the 40 sacks of sunflower seeds & dried corn lay right there at the gate unclaimed. He could hear the birds shrieking in absolute distress. He made the decision to hop the fence & take a look. He walked up behind the 3-bedroom ranch home and made his way to the bird cages. He was faced with a horrific scene & a horrible stench.
There lay hundreds of dead birds – Parrots, Macaws, Toucans at the bottom of the cages and other birds weak & dying screaming in terror. Some of the birds had resorted to cannibalizing the dead in order to survive. It was a nightmare especially for local people who loved & cared for birds. Tim called all his bird breeder friends including a famous aviarist called Howard Voren and together they raised enough of a ruckus that finally the authorities responded & on June 15th the Palm Beach Sheriff’s officers came over to assess the dreadful situation.
Inside the house awaited another horror. Incubators, still operating, contained dead babies that had hatched but were never fed. Aquarium brooders that were lined up against the wall all had dead baby blue-and-gold macaws. All had starved to death, sitting on clean bedding, while waiting for their next meal. An open bucket of handfeeding formula was on the kitchen counter with a bowl and spoon next to it. It appeared as if someone had changed the bedding in the brooders and was ready to mix up some formula when he or she was interrupted.
They counted nearly 500 dead birds and another 330 birds that were dangerously close to dying. Howard & local aviarists all stepped in to help and hand fed hundreds of birds to save them.
The birds that had died were estimated to be worth at least $500,000! And the living another $200,000. This was a huge financial loss for the Lall’s. They definitely wouldn’t have just upped & left like that. The surviving birds were sold off by Florida Animal Control to the public after the Lall family was unable to pay the hefty sum of $180K to claim them. Many of the birds went to inexperienced people who had no idea how to care for them & just bought them because they were selling for mere hundreds of dollars or less.
Missing: Moses, Lila, Felix & Harry
Moses Lal’s mother was contacted & she flew over to Florida. She told them that the last time she heard from Moses was 5 days before the delivery driver had left the packages. Moses had called his parents in Guyana to say he was sick with malaria after returning from a trip to Africa. He said he was resting and that Lila was in the kitchen cooking. He had sounded stressed, unlike himself and hurried.
Just a few days later on Jun 18th the cops traced ranch hand Roland Felix in NYC. He said he had quit work and moved to NY 2 weeks before the Lall’s were missing. He also told them that on Jun 4th he had received a disturbing call from the other ranch hand Harry. Harry had told him that he had just witnessed some smugglers take Moses, Lila and a bunch of birds at gunpoint in a white van. Why didn't Harry call the police though??
When investigators had searched the home, they found just a couple of mattresses on the floor and a few chairs, a guitar and some magazines. There was nothing else in the home for them, not even couches or carpets. Lila’s room was full of baby birds that she took care of 24x7.
The cops brought in Lall’s mother to look over the property & point out if anything was out of place. She immediately noticed that the family’s white 1992 Plymouth Voyager van was missing. The cops put a BOLO out for the white van & actually got a hit a few weeks later. In July Investigators were notified that the van had been impounded at a traffic stop arrest 400 miles away in Richmond Hills Georgia a month ago on Jun 7th.
The driver of the Van had been transporting tropical parrots & a hundred exotic turtles when he had pulled over to the side of the road to fix a flat tire. A State trooper had checked on him & the license handed over by the driver was that of Moses Lall & was found to be suspended so he was arrested and spent a night in jail. He posted bail & left the next morning.
When the mugshot was shown to his mother Mahadi Lall, she identified that man as Daljit Hari Gobin the missing ranch hand! The van was searched & along with many expensive birds, reptiles & turtles they found an instructional tape on how to change one’s identity. The cops had him & had let him go because they couldn’t tell the difference between pictures of 2 Indo-Guyanese men. Harry was among the last people who had seen Moses & Lila alive & the cops had lots of questions for him but he vanished after this incident.
Dirty Harry
About a year before the disappearances, in early 1993 police were called to the Lall’s ranch to deal with Harry. He was very upset & had threatened to harm himself because Lilawattie had vehemently rejected his advances. He claimed to be in love with her but she wanted nothing to do with him. Ok tough situation but they all apparently moved on from this.
Then in October of 1993 Harry had fled in the family van stealing $29000 from Moses. Somehow the family managed to track him down when he reached NY and had the cops catch him. Harry begged Moses to drop the charges which he did because Harry agreed to return the remaining $26000. Moses also agreed to let Harry continue to work on the ranch. This was a terrible mistake imo.
Rumors, theories & Strange incidents after the disappearance
The motives for the disappearance of Moses & Lilawattie were unclear. The Lall family was absolutely certain that they were being held against their will or were already dead because there was no way those 2 would have ever abandoned so many birds & animals for so long. There were many crazy speculations that the Lall’s ran away to avoid dangerous loan sharks, they were captured by smugglers etc etc. Mahadi Lal rubbished the loan claims, she said their family was able to financially support any request Moses had put for money if they needed it. A single bird, such as a South American blue-and-gold macaw, can fetch as much as $1,200 at a pet store. Scarlet macaws go for about $1,500, and a hyacinth macaw, found only in Brazil, sells for $8,000. The Bird business is no side hustle it’s big bucks! Rumors in the bird breeding community was that Moses had been selling off a lot of birds right before he disappeared & may have had close to $100K cash at home. Seems like a good opportunity for thieves to strike, an inside job perhaps from a known petty criminal...? But here’s a tidbit that doesn’t paint Moses in the best light, he had $28000 of unpaid import fees that he had to pay up to the Govt. He was cutting corners and doing some illegal stuff it appears. Did that leave the possibility open that Moses indulged in more serious shady business-like smuggling birds or selling off the books?
Strangely on June 9th, the day that Harry was out on bail, Howard Voren had received a consultation call from a NY bird broker who was inquiring about the salability of hawk-headed parrots, orange-winged Amazons and African Grey parrots. Voren knew instinctively that these must have belonged to Moses Lal as he was the main importer & breeder of these birds. Eventually the broker admitted that she had been contacted by an African reptile dealer trying to sell these birds to her. He had told her that the birds indeed belonged to Moses Lal and were given to him by Moses when a reptile deal fell through. Moses had money; he wouldn’t just give away birds. Who was this African reptile dealer?
on June 18, a couple weeks after the ranchers were missing, a fisherman discovered a 100 dead Congo Greys or African Grey Parrots in a field in western Palm Beach County. The birds, worth approximately $500 apiece, wore bands identifying them as the property of Malabar Aviary - Lall's company.
Howard Voren said legitimate bird breeders compete with smugglers, he also said that some breeders and smugglers get together to sell illegal birds through the legal market. Voren was propositioned by smugglers & declined offers to set up a front for smuggling operations. It is possible that the Lalls were approached as well. Did their refusal to smuggle birds end badly for them?
We can only speculate in the absence of concrete evidence. Years later in 2011, Harry was somehow traced by the cops to Jersey City, New Jersey. He was living under the alias Roy Smith. However, when detectives arrived at his workplace, he had fled just 4 minutes earlier. By then he had gained a bunch of weight & also went by the name of Blackie. Roland Felix Eyoum was arrested in 1995 for illegally importing pancake tortoises in Miami. He was in jail for a year & then deported back to Africa and has not been heard from in the US. And so, we are at an impasse in this case, Moses & Lilawattie were never found, Harry & Roland are gone. What really happened on the Lal Ranch on Jun 4th 1994?
Harry is a Wanted Man
Well, the Palm Beach Sherriff think he is guilty of murder and definitely want to hear from you if you have any tips. Harry is 65 years old, 5’7”, Indo-Guyanese male and has a noticeably smaller right eye. Gobin is now believed to be in the Philadelphia area. He is now considered by the Palm Beach Sherriff’s office to be the prime suspect in Moses and Lila's disappearances.
Useful Links & Sources:
Podcast episode on this case : https://open.spotify.com/episode/04PWmlGLZrKjp0EQUxindV
https://charleyproject.org/case/bhagwaniala-lall
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1994-07-20-9407200102-story.html
https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Moses_Lall_and_Lila_Buerattan
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25184608/missing-ranch-worker-spotted/
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1995-05-21-9505240230-story.html
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Moses & Lila
Bhagwaniala Lall also known as Moses Lall was a 31-year-old Indo-Guyanese man who hailed from a prominent family that specialized in exotic birds & animals for export since the 1970’s. The Lall family lived in the Guyanese capital of Georgetown, where they bought animals from local trappers who scoured the jungles for various types of parrots & tropical birds. After a brief but unsuccessful stint as a student & model in Canada, he moved to the US in 1986 to start an exotic bird business. His mother Mahadi Lall set up a warehouse in Queens NY called Malabar Aviary Inc. where his family would export birds from Guyana & after the quarantine period Moses would then sell them off to pet stores in the US. His 35-year-old aunt Lilawattie Buerattan came over from Toronto to help with the business and she worked her magic to ensure the birds were well cared for & healthy. Together they took great care of the birds & business was slowly taking off. On some days they would sleep in the warehouse after a long day of caring for the birds. In 1987 they leased some land in Northern Florida and setup a sanctuary of sorts to keep the birds more comfortable in a warmer, tropical climate until they were sold. In 1992 they finally settled on a 5-acre ranch in Loxahatchee Florida where they could house & care for almost hundreds of birds at a time.
Moses would often travel to Africa to acquire exotic reptiles for his family business. He handled all the business dealings and his aunt handled the birds. The US passed a Wild Bird Conservation Act in 1993 banning import of exotic birds into the country so Moses & Lila could no longer rely on their family exports to acquire birds. They now shifted their business model & focused on breeding the birds they already had to sell in the US.
Lilawattie had a knack for taking care of the birds and soon ran a budding bird breeding program at the ranch. She would wake up early & hand feed the little hatchings, wean them and socialize them appropriately until they were healthy enough to be sold.
They hired Daljit Hari Gobin or Hari an Indo-Guyanese man who was a family acquaintance. They also hired another man called Roland Felix Eyoum the brother of an African reptile dealer Moses had met on one of his trips.
Abandoned Birds
One fine day on June 4th 1994, a delivery driver Daryl from a company called Bird Haven brought birdseed as scheduled to the Ranch and was surprised to find the gate locked & chained up. This was unusual, the ranch hands knew of the delivery dates and left the gate open for him every week so he could drive up and deliver the sacks right at the doorstep.
After 8 days Tim Tegreeny owner of Bird Haven came over to take another look at the ranch & to his utter surprise the 40 sacks of sunflower seeds & dried corn lay right there at the gate unclaimed. He could hear the birds shrieking in absolute distress. He made the decision to hop the fence & take a look. He walked up behind the 3-bedroom ranch home and made his way to the bird cages. He was faced with a horrific scene & a horrible stench.
There lay hundreds of dead birds – Parrots, Macaws, Toucans at the bottom of the cages and other birds weak & dying screaming in terror. Some of the birds had resorted to cannibalizing the dead in order to survive. It was a nightmare especially for local people who loved & cared for birds. Tim called all his bird breeder friends including a famous aviarist called Howard Voren and together they raised enough of a ruckus that finally the authorities responded & on June 15th the Palm Beach Sheriff’s officers came over to assess the dreadful situation.
Inside the house awaited another horror. Incubators, still operating, contained dead babies that had hatched but were never fed. Aquarium brooders that were lined up against the wall all had dead baby blue-and-gold macaws. All had starved to death, sitting on clean bedding, while waiting for their next meal. An open bucket of handfeeding formula was on the kitchen counter with a bowl and spoon next to it. It appeared as if someone had changed the bedding in the brooders and was ready to mix up some formula when he or she was interrupted.
They counted nearly 500 dead birds and another 330 birds that were dangerously close to dying. Howard & local aviarists all stepped in to help and hand fed hundreds of birds to save them.
The birds that had died were estimated to be worth at least $500,000! And the living another $200,000. This was a huge financial loss for the Lall’s. They definitely wouldn’t have just upped & left like that. The surviving birds were sold off by Florida Animal Control to the public after the Lall family was unable to pay the hefty sum of $180K to claim them. Many of the birds went to inexperienced people who had no idea how to care for them & just bought them because they were selling for mere hundreds of dollars or less.
Missing: Moses, Lila, Felix & Harry
Moses Lal’s mother was contacted & she flew over to Florida. She told them that the last time she heard from Moses was 5 days before the delivery driver had left the packages. Moses had called his parents in Guyana to say he was sick with malaria after returning from a trip to Africa. He said he was resting and that Lila was in the kitchen cooking. He had sounded stressed, unlike himself and hurried.
Just a few days later on Jun 18th the cops traced ranch hand Roland Felix in NYC. He said he had quit work and moved to NY 2 weeks before the Lall’s were missing. He also told them that on Jun 4th he had received a disturbing call from the other ranch hand Harry. Harry had told him that he had just witnessed some smugglers take Moses, Lila and a bunch of birds at gunpoint in a white van. Why didn't Harry call the police though??
When investigators had searched the home, they found just a couple of mattresses on the floor and a few chairs, a guitar and some magazines. There was nothing else in the home for them, not even couches or carpets. Lila’s room was full of baby birds that she took care of 24x7.
The cops brought in Lall’s mother to look over the property & point out if anything was out of place. She immediately noticed that the family’s white 1992 Plymouth Voyager van was missing. The cops put a BOLO out for the white van & actually got a hit a few weeks later. In July Investigators were notified that the van had been impounded at a traffic stop arrest 400 miles away in Richmond Hills Georgia a month ago on Jun 7th.
The driver of the Van had been transporting tropical parrots & a hundred exotic turtles when he had pulled over to the side of the road to fix a flat tire. A State trooper had checked on him & the license handed over by the driver was that of Moses Lall & was found to be suspended so he was arrested and spent a night in jail. He posted bail & left the next morning.
When the mugshot was shown to his mother Mahadi Lall, she identified that man as Daljit Hari Gobin the missing ranch hand! The van was searched & along with many expensive birds, reptiles & turtles they found an instructional tape on how to change one’s identity. The cops had him & had let him go because they couldn’t tell the difference between pictures of 2 Indo-Guyanese men. Harry was among the last people who had seen Moses & Lila alive & the cops had lots of questions for him but he vanished after this incident.
Dirty Harry
About a year before the disappearances, in early 1993 police were called to the Lall’s ranch to deal with Harry. He was very upset & had threatened to harm himself because Lilawattie had vehemently rejected his advances. He claimed to be in love with her but she wanted nothing to do with him. Ok tough situation but they all apparently moved on from this.
Then in October of 1993 Harry had fled in the family van stealing $29000 from Moses. Somehow the family managed to track him down when he reached NY and had the cops catch him. Harry begged Moses to drop the charges which he did because Harry agreed to return the remaining $26000. Moses also agreed to let Harry continue to work on the ranch. This was a terrible mistake imo.
Rumors, theories & Strange incidents after the disappearance
The motives for the disappearance of Moses & Lilawattie were unclear. The Lall family was absolutely certain that they were being held against their will or were already dead because there was no way those 2 would have ever abandoned so many birds & animals for so long. There were many crazy speculations that the Lall’s ran away to avoid dangerous loan sharks, they were captured by smugglers etc etc. Mahadi Lal rubbished the loan claims, she said their family was able to financially support any request Moses had put for money if they needed it. A single bird, such as a South American blue-and-gold macaw, can fetch as much as $1,200 at a pet store. Scarlet macaws go for about $1,500, and a hyacinth macaw, found only in Brazil, sells for $8,000. The Bird business is no side hustle it’s big bucks! Rumors in the bird breeding community was that Moses had been selling off a lot of birds right before he disappeared & may have had close to $100K cash at home. Seems like a good opportunity for thieves to strike, an inside job perhaps from a known petty criminal...? But here’s a tidbit that doesn’t paint Moses in the best light, he had $28000 of unpaid import fees that he had to pay up to the Govt. He was cutting corners and doing some illegal stuff it appears. Did that leave the possibility open that Moses indulged in more serious shady business-like smuggling birds or selling off the books?
Strangely on June 9th, the day that Harry was out on bail, Howard Voren had received a consultation call from a NY bird broker who was inquiring about the salability of hawk-headed parrots, orange-winged Amazons and African Grey parrots. Voren knew instinctively that these must have belonged to Moses Lal as he was the main importer & breeder of these birds. Eventually the broker admitted that she had been contacted by an African reptile dealer trying to sell these birds to her. He had told her that the birds indeed belonged to Moses Lal and were given to him by Moses when a reptile deal fell through. Moses had money; he wouldn’t just give away birds. Who was this African reptile dealer?
on June 18, a couple weeks after the ranchers were missing, a fisherman discovered a 100 dead Congo Greys or African Grey Parrots in a field in western Palm Beach County. The birds, worth approximately $500 apiece, wore bands identifying them as the property of Malabar Aviary - Lall's company.
Howard Voren said legitimate bird breeders compete with smugglers, he also said that some breeders and smugglers get together to sell illegal birds through the legal market. Voren was propositioned by smugglers & declined offers to set up a front for smuggling operations. It is possible that the Lalls were approached as well. Did their refusal to smuggle birds end badly for them?
We can only speculate in the absence of concrete evidence. Years later in 2011, Harry was somehow traced by the cops to Jersey City, New Jersey. He was living under the alias Roy Smith. However, when detectives arrived at his workplace, he had fled just 4 minutes earlier. By then he had gained a bunch of weight & also went by the name of Blackie. Roland Felix Eyoum was arrested in 1995 for illegally importing pancake tortoises in Miami. He was in jail for a year & then deported back to Africa and has not been heard from in the US. And so, we are at an impasse in this case, Moses & Lilawattie were never found, Harry & Roland are gone. What really happened on the Lal Ranch on Jun 4th 1994?
Harry is a Wanted Man
Well, the Palm Beach Sherriff think he is guilty of murder and definitely want to hear from you if you have any tips. Harry is 65 years old, 5’7”, Indo-Guyanese male and has a noticeably smaller right eye. Gobin is now believed to be in the Philadelphia area. He is now considered by the Palm Beach Sherriff’s office to be the prime suspect in Moses and Lila's disappearances.
Useful Links & Sources:
Podcast episode on this case : https://open.spotify.com/episode/04PWmlGLZrKjp0EQUxindV
https://charleyproject.org/case/bhagwaniala-lall
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1994-07-20-9407200102-story.html
https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Moses_Lall_and_Lila_Buerattan
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25184608/missing-ranch-worker-spotted/
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1995-05-21-9505240230-story.html
2023.03.27 22:43 x_swagmaster69_x False Awakening ?
I've never experienced something like this before and I found this blog in hopes of someone being able to explain something to me. I just woke up from this nap about 20 minutes ago, and I had a dream. In this dream, I KNEW I was dreaming, I told myself that. It started out fine but as time went on, things became more uncanny. My windows led to nowhere, the decor in my room was the decor I had years ago. It was as if all of a sudden each of my limbs were being pulled down by an unexplainable weight and I couldn't stay standing for more than a short period of time. I could hear my own ragged breath and my heart was pounding irregularly against my chest. I looked down at my hands, my surroundings, and it was as if everything surrounding me was... blurry? There was no detail to anything. I managed to pull myself through my doorway and there was a figure in the corner of the living room. It had no face, and resembled one of those uncanny drawings of faces scribbled out if that makes sense. A sudden sense of dread overtook my whole body and I remember screaming but nothing came out. I started begging "help, help, let me out of this" and attempting to drag myself to the bathroom. Aforementioned figure seemed to appear suddenly at my side and when it spoke, it sounded too much like my brother who doesn't live here anymore and hasn't for months. When I reached the bathroom, I splashed my face with water over and over and over again, begging to wake up. It was my dog jumping on the bed next to me that awoke me with a start. Although it was then when I realized I couldn't move a single muscle in my body. This fortunately only lasted a few seconds until my body moved on its own accord and I sat up and clutched my chest, trying to catch my breath. I looked down at my hands and I felt the skin, hoping it was real. The blurriness I mentioned that I saw in the dream was no longer there. As I sit typing this, I still feel that dread and the presence of someone or something. I just hope I'm really awake this time. I'm an 18 year old girl, finishing high-school and trade-school. I work part time at a convenience store and part time at the county jail which I just recently started. I'm naturally stressed all the time but something like this has never happened and I'm pretty healthy and try to get decent sleep. Is there any explanation for this? Does it just happen randomly? Or could something else be going on? Any information will help as I'm afraid to try and sleep again tonight.
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2023.03.27 22:25 CrimesFromTheEast Florida 1994 : The mysterious Vanishing of Indo Guyanese Bird Breeders Moses & Lilawattie left their family baffled & led to the sad deaths of 500 exotic tropical birds
Moses & Lila
Bhagwaniala Lall also known as Moses Lall was a 31-year-old Indo-Guyanese man who hailed from a prominent family that specialized in exotic birds & animals for export since the 1970’s. The Lall family lived in the Guyanese capital of Georgetown, where they bought animals from local trappers who scoured the jungles for various types of parrots & tropical birds. After a brief but unsuccessful stint as a student & model in Canada, he moved to the US in 1986 to start an exotic bird business. His mother Mahadi Lall set up a warehouse in Queens NY called Malabar Aviary Inc. where his family would export birds from Guyana & after the quarantine period Moses would then sell them off to pet stores in the US. His 35-year-old aunt Lilawattie Buerattan came over from Toronto to help with the business and she worked her magic to ensure the birds were well cared for & healthy. Together they took great care of the birds & business was slowly taking off. On some days they would sleep in the warehouse after a long day of caring for the birds. In 1987 they leased some land in Northern Florida and setup a sanctuary of sorts to keep the birds more comfortable in a warmer, tropical climate until they were sold. In 1992 they finally settled on a 5-acre ranch in Loxahatchee Florida where they could house & care for almost hundreds of birds at a time.
Moses would often travel to Africa to acquire exotic reptiles for his family business. He handled all the business dealings and his aunt handled the birds. The US passed a Wild Bird Conservation Act in 1993 banning import of exotic birds into the country so Moses & Lila could no longer rely on their family exports to acquire birds. They now shifted their business model & focused on breeding the birds they already had to sell in the US.
Lilawattie had a knack for taking care of the birds and soon ran a budding bird breeding program at the ranch. She would wake up early & hand feed the little hatchings, wean them and socialize them appropriately until they were healthy enough to be sold.
They hired Daljit Hari Gobin or Hari an Indo-Guyanese man who was a family acquaintance. They also hired another man called Roland Felix Eyoum the brother of an African reptile dealer Moses had met on one of his trips.
Abandoned Birds
One fine day on June 4th 1994, a delivery driver Daryl from a company called Bird Haven brought birdseed as scheduled to the Ranch and was surprised to find the gate locked & chained up. This was unusual, the ranch hands knew of the delivery dates and left the gate open for him every week so he could drive up and deliver the sacks right at the doorstep.
After 8 days Tim Tegreeny owner of Bird Haven came over to take another look at the ranch & to his utter surprise the 40 sacks of sunflower seeds & dried corn lay right there at the gate unclaimed. He could hear the birds shrieking in absolute distress. He made the decision to hop the fence & take a look. He walked up behind the 3-bedroom ranch home and made his way to the bird cages. He was faced with a horrific scene & a horrible stench.
There lay hundreds of dead birds – Parrots, Macaws, Toucans at the bottom of the cages and other birds weak & dying screaming in terror. Some of the birds had resorted to cannibalizing the dead in order to survive. It was a nightmare especially for local people who loved & cared for birds. Tim called all his bird breeder friends including a famous aviarist called Howard Voren and together they raised enough of a ruckus that finally the authorities responded & on June 15th the Palm Beach Sheriff’s officers came over to assess the dreadful situation.
Inside the house awaited another horror. Incubators, still operating, contained dead babies that had hatched but were never fed. Aquarium brooders that were lined up against the wall all had dead baby blue-and-gold macaws. All had starved to death, sitting on clean bedding, while waiting for their next meal. An open bucket of handfeeding formula was on the kitchen counter with a bowl and spoon next to it. It appeared as if someone had changed the bedding in the brooders and was ready to mix up some formula when he or she was interrupted.
They counted nearly 500 dead birds and another 330 birds that were dangerously close to dying. Howard & local aviarists all stepped in to help and hand fed hundreds of birds to save them.
The birds that had died were estimated to be worth at least $500,000! And the living another $200,000. This was a huge financial loss for the Lall’s. They definitely wouldn’t have just upped & left like that. The surviving birds were sold off by Florida Animal Control to the public after the Lall family was unable to pay the hefty sum of $180K to claim them. Many of the birds went to inexperienced people who had no idea how to care for them & just bought them because they were selling for mere hundreds of dollars or less.
Missing: Moses, Lila, Felix & Harry
Moses Lal’s mother was contacted & she flew over to Florida. She told them that the last time she heard from Moses was 5 days before the delivery driver had left the packages. Moses had called his parents in Guyana to say he was sick with malaria after returning from a trip to Africa. He said he was resting and that Lila was in the kitchen cooking. He had sounded stressed, unlike himself and hurried.
Just a few days later on Jun 18th the cops traced ranch hand Roland Felix in NYC. He said he had quit work and moved to NY 2 weeks before the Lall’s were missing. He also told them that on Jun 4th he had received a disturbing call from the other ranch hand Harry. Harry had told him that he had just witnessed some smugglers take Moses, Lila and a bunch of birds at gunpoint in a white van. Why didn't Harry call the police though??
When investigators had searched the home, they found just a couple of mattresses on the floor and a few chairs, a guitar and some magazines. There was nothing else in the home for them, not even couches or carpets. Lila’s room was full of baby birds that she took care of 24x7.
The cops brought in Lall’s mother to look over the property & point out if anything was out of place. She immediately noticed that the family’s white 1992 Plymouth Voyager van was missing. The cops put a BOLO out for the white van & actually got a hit a few weeks later. In July Investigators were notified that the van had been impounded at a traffic stop arrest 400 miles away in Richmond Hills Georgia a month ago on Jun 7th.
The driver of the Van had been transporting tropical parrots & a hundred exotic turtles when he had pulled over to the side of the road to fix a flat tire. A State trooper had checked on him & the license handed over by the driver was that of Moses Lall & was found to be suspended so he was arrested and spent a night in jail. He posted bail & left the next morning.
When the mugshot was shown to his mother Mahadi Lall, she identified that man as Daljit Hari Gobin the missing ranch hand! The van was searched & along with many expensive birds, reptiles & turtles they found an instructional tape on how to change one’s identity. The cops had him & had let him go because they couldn’t tell the difference between pictures of 2 Indo-Guyanese men. Harry was among the last people who had seen Moses & Lila alive & the cops had lots of questions for him but he vanished after this incident.
Dirty Harry
About a year before the disappearances, in early 1993 police were called to the Lall’s ranch to deal with Harry. He was very upset & had threatened to harm himself because Lilawattie had vehemently rejected his advances. He claimed to be in love with her but she wanted nothing to do with him. Ok tough situation but they all apparently moved on from this.
Then in October of 1993 Harry had fled in the family van stealing $29000 from Moses. Somehow the family managed to track him down when he reached NY and had the cops catch him. Harry begged Moses to drop the charges which he did because Harry agreed to return the remaining $26000. Moses also agreed to let Harry continue to work on the ranch. This was a terrible mistake imo.
Rumors, theories & Strange incidents after the disappearance
The motives for the disappearance of Moses & Lilawattie were unclear. The Lall family was absolutely certain that they were being held against their will or were already dead because there was no way those 2 would have ever abandoned so many birds & animals for so long. There were many crazy speculations that the Lall’s ran away to avoid dangerous loan sharks, they were captured by smugglers etc etc. Mahadi Lal rubbished the loan claims, she said their family was able to financially support any request Moses had put for money if they needed it. A single bird, such as a South American blue-and-gold macaw, can fetch as much as $1,200 at a pet store. Scarlet macaws go for about $1,500, and a hyacinth macaw, found only in Brazil, sells for $8,000. The Bird business is no side hustle it’s big bucks! Rumors in the bird breeding community was that Moses had been selling off a lot of birds right before he disappeared & may have had close to $100K cash at home. Seems like a good opportunity for thieves to strike, an inside job perhaps from a known petty criminal...? But here’s a tidbit that doesn’t paint Moses in the best light, he had $28000 of unpaid import fees that he had to pay up to the Govt. He was cutting corners and doing some illegal stuff it appears. Did that leave the possibility open that Moses indulged in more serious shady business-like smuggling birds or selling off the books?
Strangely on June 9th, the day that Harry was out on bail, Howard Voren had received a consultation call from a NY bird broker who was inquiring about the salability of hawk-headed parrots, orange-winged Amazons and African Grey parrots. Voren knew instinctively that these must have belonged to Moses Lal as he was the main importer & breeder of these birds. Eventually the broker admitted that she had been contacted by an African reptile dealer trying to sell these birds to her. He had told her that the birds indeed belonged to Moses Lal and were given to him by Moses when a reptile deal fell through. Moses had money; he wouldn’t just give away birds. Who was this African reptile dealer?
on June 18, a couple weeks after the ranchers were missing, a fisherman discovered a 100 dead Congo Greys or African Grey Parrots in a field in western Palm Beach County. The birds, worth approximately $500 apiece, wore bands identifying them as the property of Malabar Aviary - Lall's company.
Howard Voren said legitimate bird breeders compete with smugglers, he also said that some breeders and smugglers get together to sell illegal birds through the legal market. Voren was propositioned by smugglers & declined offers to set up a front for smuggling operations. It is possible that the Lalls were approached as well. Did their refusal to smuggle birds end badly for them?
We can only speculate in the absence of concrete evidence. Years later in 2011, Harry was somehow traced by the cops to Jersey City, New Jersey. He was living under the alias Roy Smith. However, when detectives arrived at his workplace, he had fled just 4 minutes earlier. By then he had gained a bunch of weight & also went by the name of Blackie. Roland Felix Eyoum was arrested in 1995 for illegally importing pancake tortoises in Miami. He was in jail for a year & then deported back to Africa and has not been heard from in the US. And so, we are at an impasse in this case, Moses & Lilawattie were never found, Harry & Roland are gone. What really happened on the Lal Ranch on Jun 4th 1994?
Harry is a Wanted Man
Well, the Palm Beach Sherriff think he is guilty of murder and definitely want to hear from you if you have any tips. Harry is 65 years old, 5’7”, Indo-Guyanese male and has a noticeably smaller right eye. Gobin is now believed to be in the Philadelphia area. He is now considered by the Palm Beach Sherriff’s office to be the prime suspect in Moses and Lila's disappearances.
Useful Links & Sources:
Podcast episode on this case : https://open.spotify.com/episode/04PWmlGLZrKjp0EQUxindV
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1994-07-20-9407200102-story.html
https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Moses_Lall_and_Lila_Buerattan
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25184608/missing-ranch-worker-spotted/
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1995-05-21-9505240230-story.html
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Bhagwaniala Lall also known as Moses Lall was a 31-year-old Indo-Guyanese man who hailed from a prominent family that specialized in exotic birds & animals for export since the 1970’s. The Lall family lived in the Guyanese capital of Georgetown, where they bought animals from local trappers who scoured the jungles for various types of parrots & tropical birds. After a brief but unsuccessful stint as a student & model in Canada, he moved to the US in 1986 to start an exotic bird business. His mother Mahadi Lall set up a warehouse in Queens NY called Malabar Aviary Inc. where his family would export birds from Guyana & after the quarantine period Moses would then sell them off to pet stores in the US. His 35-year-old aunt Lilawattie Buerattan came over from Toronto to help with the business and she worked her magic to ensure the birds were well cared for & healthy. Together they took great care of the birds & business was slowly taking off. On some days they would sleep in the warehouse after a long day of caring for the birds. In 1987 they leased some land in Northern Florida and setup a sanctuary of sorts to keep the birds more comfortable in a warmer, tropical climate until they were sold. In 1992 they finally settled on a 5-acre ranch in Loxahatchee Florida where they could house & care for almost hundreds of birds at a time.
Moses would often travel to Africa to acquire exotic reptiles for his family business. He handled all the business dealings and his aunt handled the birds. The US passed a Wild Bird Conservation Act in 1993 banning import of exotic birds into the country so Moses & Lila could no longer rely on their family exports to acquire birds. They now shifted their business model & focused on breeding the birds they already had to sell in the US.
Lilawattie had a knack for taking care of the birds and soon ran a budding bird breeding program at the ranch. She would wake up early & hand feed the little hatchings, wean them and socialize them appropriately until they were healthy enough to be sold.
They hired Daljit Hari Gobin or Hari an Indo-Guyanese man who was a family acquaintance. They also hired another man called Roland Felix Eyoum the brother of an African reptile dealer Moses had met on one of his trips.
Abandoned Birds
One fine day on June 4th 1994, a delivery driver Daryl from a company called Bird Haven brought birdseed as scheduled to the Ranch and was surprised to find the gate locked & chained up. This was unusual, the ranch hands knew of the delivery dates and left the gate open for him every week so he could drive up and deliver the sacks right at the doorstep.
After 8 days Tim Tegreeny owner of Bird Haven came over to take another look at the ranch & to his utter surprise the 40 sacks of sunflower seeds & dried corn lay right there at the gate unclaimed. He could hear the birds shrieking in absolute distress. He made the decision to hop the fence & take a look. He walked up behind the 3-bedroom ranch home and made his way to the bird cages. He was faced with a horrific scene & a horrible stench.
There lay hundreds of dead birds – Parrots, Macaws, Toucans at the bottom of the cages and other birds weak & dying screaming in terror. Some of the birds had resorted to cannibalizing the dead in order to survive. It was a nightmare especially for local people who loved & cared for birds. Tim called all his bird breeder friends including a famous aviarist called Howard Voren and together they raised enough of a ruckus that finally the authorities responded & on June 15th the Palm Beach Sheriff’s officers came over to assess the dreadful situation.
Inside the house awaited another horror. Incubators, still operating, contained dead babies that had hatched but were never fed. Aquarium brooders that were lined up against the wall all had dead baby blue-and-gold macaws. All had starved to death, sitting on clean bedding, while waiting for their next meal. An open bucket of handfeeding formula was on the kitchen counter with a bowl and spoon next to it. It appeared as if someone had changed the bedding in the brooders and was ready to mix up some formula when he or she was interrupted.
They counted nearly 500 dead birds and another 330 birds that were dangerously close to dying. Howard & local aviarists all stepped in to help and hand fed hundreds of birds to save them.
The birds that had died were estimated to be worth at least $500,000! And the living another $200,000. This was a huge financial loss for the Lall’s. They definitely wouldn’t have just upped & left like that. The surviving birds were sold off by Florida Animal Control to the public after the Lall family was unable to pay the hefty sum of $180K to claim them. Many of the birds went to inexperienced people who had no idea how to care for them & just bought them because they were selling for mere hundreds of dollars or less.
Missing: Moses, Lila, Felix & Harry
Moses Lal’s mother was contacted & she flew over to Florida. She told them that the last time she heard from Moses was 5 days before the delivery driver had left the packages. Moses had called his parents in Guyana to say he was sick with malaria after returning from a trip to Africa. He said he was resting and that Lila was in the kitchen cooking. He had sounded stressed, unlike himself and hurried.
Just a few days later on Jun 18th the cops traced ranch hand Roland Felix in NYC. He said he had quit work and moved to NY 2 weeks before the Lall’s were missing. He also told them that on Jun 4th he had received a disturbing call from the other ranch hand Harry. Harry had told him that he had just witnessed some smugglers take Moses, Lila and a bunch of birds at gunpoint in a white van. Why didn't Harry call the police though??
When investigators had searched the home, they found just a couple of mattresses on the floor and a few chairs, a guitar and some magazines. There was nothing else in the home for them, not even couches or carpets. Lila’s room was full of baby birds that she took care of 24x7.
The cops brought in Lall’s mother to look over the property & point out if anything was out of place. She immediately noticed that the family’s white 1992 Plymouth Voyager van was missing. The cops put a BOLO out for the white van & actually got a hit a few weeks later. In July Investigators were notified that the van had been impounded at a traffic stop arrest 400 miles away in Richmond Hills Georgia a month ago on Jun 7th.
The driver of the Van had been transporting tropical parrots & a hundred exotic turtles when he had pulled over to the side of the road to fix a flat tire. A State trooper had checked on him & the license handed over by the driver was that of Moses Lall & was found to be suspended so he was arrested and spent a night in jail. He posted bail & left the next morning.
When the mugshot was shown to his mother Mahadi Lall, she identified that man as Daljit Hari Gobin the missing ranch hand! The van was searched & along with many expensive birds, reptiles & turtles they found an instructional tape on how to change one’s identity. The cops had him & had let him go because they couldn’t tell the difference between pictures of 2 Indo-Guyanese men. Harry was among the last people who had seen Moses & Lila alive & the cops had lots of questions for him but he vanished after this incident.
Dirty Harry
About a year before the disappearances, in early 1993 police were called to the Lall’s ranch to deal with Harry. He was very upset & had threatened to harm himself because Lilawattie had vehemently rejected his advances. He claimed to be in love with her but she wanted nothing to do with him. Ok tough situation but they all apparently moved on from this.
Then in October of 1993 Harry had fled in the family van stealing $29000 from Moses. Somehow the family managed to track him down when he reached NY and had the cops catch him. Harry begged Moses to drop the charges which he did because Harry agreed to return the remaining $26000. Moses also agreed to let Harry continue to work on the ranch. This was a terrible mistake imo.
Rumors, theories & Strange incidents after the disappearance
The motives for the disappearance of Moses & Lilawattie were unclear. The Lall family was absolutely certain that they were being held against their will or were already dead because there was no way those 2 would have ever abandoned so many birds & animals for so long. There were many crazy speculations that the Lall’s ran away to avoid dangerous loan sharks, they were captured by smugglers etc etc. Mahadi Lal rubbished the loan claims, she said their family was able to financially support any request Moses had put for money if they needed it. A single bird, such as a South American blue-and-gold macaw, can fetch as much as $1,200 at a pet store. Scarlet macaws go for about $1,500, and a hyacinth macaw, found only in Brazil, sells for $8,000. The Bird business is no side hustle it’s big bucks! Rumors in the bird breeding community was that Moses had been selling off a lot of birds right before he disappeared & may have had close to $100K cash at home. Seems like a good opportunity for thieves to strike, an inside job perhaps from a known petty criminal...? But here’s a tidbit that doesn’t paint Moses in the best light, he had $28000 of unpaid import fees that he had to pay up to the Govt. He was cutting corners and doing some illegal stuff it appears. Did that leave the possibility open that Moses indulged in more serious shady business-like smuggling birds or selling off the books?
Strangely on June 9th, the day that Harry was out on bail, Howard Voren had received a consultation call from a NY bird broker who was inquiring about the salability of hawk-headed parrots, orange-winged Amazons and African Grey parrots. Voren knew instinctively that these must have belonged to Moses Lal as he was the main importer & breeder of these birds. Eventually the broker admitted that she had been contacted by an African reptile dealer trying to sell these birds to her. He had told her that the birds indeed belonged to Moses Lal and were given to him by Moses when a reptile deal fell through. Moses had money; he wouldn’t just give away birds. Who was this African reptile dealer?
on June 18, a couple weeks after the ranchers were missing, a fisherman discovered a 100 dead Congo Greys or African Grey Parrots in a field in western Palm Beach County. The birds, worth approximately $500 apiece, wore bands identifying them as the property of Malabar Aviary - Lall's company.
Howard Voren said legitimate bird breeders compete with smugglers, he also said that some breeders and smugglers get together to sell illegal birds through the legal market. Voren was propositioned by smugglers & declined offers to set up a front for smuggling operations. It is possible that the Lalls were approached as well. Did their refusal to smuggle birds end badly for them?
We can only speculate in the absence of concrete evidence. Years later in 2011, Harry was somehow traced by the cops to Jersey City, New Jersey. He was living under the alias Roy Smith. However, when detectives arrived at his workplace, he had fled just 4 minutes earlier. By then he had gained a bunch of weight & also went by the name of Blackie. Roland Felix Eyoum was arrested in 1995 for illegally importing pancake tortoises in Miami. He was in jail for a year & then deported back to Africa and has not been heard from in the US. And so, we are at an impasse in this case, Moses & Lilawattie were never found, Harry & Roland are gone. What really happened on the Lal Ranch on Jun 4th 1994?
Harry is a Wanted Man
Well, the Palm Beach Sherriff think he is guilty of murder and definitely want to hear from you if you have any tips. Harry is 65 years old, 5’7”, Indo-Guyanese male and has a noticeably smaller right eye. Gobin is now believed to be in the Philadelphia area. He is now considered by the Palm Beach Sherriff’s office to be the prime suspect in Moses and Lila's disappearances.
Useful Links & Sources:
Podcast episode on this case : https://open.spotify.com/episode/04PWmlGLZrKjp0EQUxindV
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1994-07-20-9407200102-story.html
https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Moses_Lall_and_Lila_Buerattan
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/25184608/missing-ranch-worker-spotted/
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1995-05-21-9505240230-story.html
2023.03.27 22:07 SouthNagsHead Moselle Sells for $2.6 Million - Far Less than the $3.9 Million it was Listed For
 | Daily Mail - (Condensed to comply with Reddit photo limit) submitted by SouthNagsHead to MurdaughFamilyMurders [link] [comments] South Carolina hunting lodge where Alex Murdaugh murdered wife Maggie and son Paul sells for $2.6m Daily Mail Online The South Carolina hunting lodge where Alex Murdaugh murdered wife Maggie and son Paul sells for $2.6m to two buyers - far less than the $3.9m it was listed for.
The property, Moselle, in South Carolina, was the scene of the gristly double murder of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh by disgraced legal scion Alex in June 2021. They were found shot dead near the dog kennels on the property, with Alex found guilty of the killings and handed two consecutive life sentences in March. It is claimed that Murdaugh owed more than $2million on the property in outstanding mortgage payments. But the 1,772-acre property was sold for a significant amount less than it was listed for originally by Crosby Land Company. They put it up for sale at $3.9million, and boasted its equipment shed, enclosed shop, and the now infamous 12 dog kennels on the property. The property, Moselle, in South Carolina, was the scene of the gristly double murder of Maggie and Paul Murdaugh by disgraced legal scion Alex in June 2021 https://preview.redd.it/1kkbtobs6cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=14770e0bab8a84f2565df6bc4e2e0e81e0026f33 The listing said: 'The property boasts over 2.5 miles of river frontage, offering freshwater fishing, kayaking, and abundant deer, turkey, and waterfowl populations. 'The river has vehicular accessibility for launching at several locations throughout the property and with 3 miles of improved roads; these areas are accessible 365 days of the year.' It sold on Wednesday for $2,663,676 according to documents obtained by News 2, nearly ten years after Murdaugh bought the property from his friend Barrett Boulware. He then transferred ownership of the hunting cabin to his wife Maggie for just $5, with documents for her states stating that she owned 'fee simple absolute interest' in the property. Proceeds for the sale are reportedly being put towards Alex Murdaugh's outstanding legal fees, Palmetto State Bank, Buster Murdaugh and victims of the infamous 2019 boat crash, according to Fox Carolina. The new owners, James Ayer and Jeffrey Godley, decided to clear the house after their purchase and put all its contents up for auction. Before the property went on sale countless items belonging to the Murdaugh family were put under the hammer last week. The items include boxes of spent shotgun shells and a hunting shirt marked with 'Alex' inside the collar. It is claimed that Murdaugh owed more than $2million on the property in outstanding mortgage payments It sold on Wednesday for $2,663,676 according to documents obtained by News 2, nearly ten years after Murdaugh bought the property from his friend Barrett Boulware Before the property went on sale countless items belonging to the Murdaugh family were put under the hammer last week including a shirt bearing Alex Murdaugh's name https://preview.redd.it/fi3h53r07cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=ed9bf52691449a9e19734729e987f53b31faa5d2 A pair of wooden chairs and a table-lamp up for auction from the Murdaugh estate last week. They put it up for sale at $3.9million, and boasted its equipment shed, enclosed shop, and the now infamous 12 dog kennels on the property https://preview.redd.it/ca2n0ua27cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=265be06412a07fc83e817a4d60dca762c2b2c7a1 Also up for auction is furniture from the house, decoy ducks, grisly lamps made from turtle shells, and even a smiling decorative skull. Murdaugh was given two consecutive life sentences for the murders after the month-long trial captured the nation's attention. Scenes from inside the warehouse where the auction was held showed rows of possessions laid out across long tables, as prospective bidders sorted through the items that once filled the sprawling country home of the prominent southern family. Among the more expensive items on sale were lamps emblazoned with turtle shells, which sold for $800, a Yeti tumbler for $400, and mounted long horns which were given a hefty $10,000 price tag. The first item auctioned off was an animal trap, which went for $500, which was later followed by a pair of rocking chairs for $850, and a couch from the family mansion, which fetched $30,000 after an intense bidding war. Leather furniture up for sale at the Murdaugh estate auction https://preview.redd.it/q9qbgl647cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=81866cb4c15d24c5fb400e261f78885c9aec33e8 The furniture up for auction consisted of a set of leather couches and armchairs, along with countless wooden tables, bureaus, bedframes, bookshelves, and lamps The quail pen at the Murdaugh Moselle property close to the kennels where the murders took place https://preview.redd.it/y9r7lku67cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=afaef8af7d2684355d0a30a7c08b4afc9886423e A trio of beds up for auction from the Murdaugh estate on Thursday afternoon https://preview.redd.it/ofli35487cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=9a27c6492b6ac8296e6cf00dab9c75763bb38445 Murdaugh is currently housed in high-security Kirkland Correctional Institution, one of South Carolina's most notorious prisons In addition to Murdaugh's own camouflaged shirt, numerous pairs of hunting boots could be seen in the inventory, along with a hat bearing a South Carolina Highway Patrol baseball cap. And on top of the boxes of shotgun shells, boxes of unused rifle bullets were up for auction, along with a hunting crossbow, rifle scopes, and what appeared to be a case for a rifle or shotgun. After purchasing a bike owned by Maggie Murdaugh, Erin Craig told DailyMail.com he was planning to put the item on display in a storefront because 'it will serve its purpose best where people can look at it instead of it going to somebody's backyard.' Craig added that he paid over $3,000 for a variety of items from the Murdaugh auction, including an American flag, some Richard Alexander Murdaugh monogrammed glasses, and one of Paul Murdaugh's wallets. The furniture up for auction consisted of a set of leather couches and armchairs, along with countless wooden tables, bureaus, bedframes, bookshelves, and lamps. Murdaugh called 911 on the evening of June 7, 2021, saying he found his son and wife dead when he returned home from a one-hour visit with his mother, who has dementia Numerous tomes from the South Carolina family's home were on sale at the auction in Pembroke, Georgia https://preview.redd.it/8ctjpv7g7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=1fe4fceaf8b8277602354db9c837b29d8edf2ca1 Before the auction started, countless people could be seen sifting through the items that once filled the Murdaugh home https://preview.redd.it/i6pbf3fh7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=04ad8aa2610e13701c80b3413933c864bc9eace3 A money bag from one of the banks Murdaugh was known to pick up cash from https://preview.redd.it/t9006chi7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=a97e6ad20bf686bf4a41c78b7cdea5b8520efd34 There were also various household appliances, cameras, thermoses, tools and toolboxes, a pair of salt and pepper shakers decorated with The Grinch, flashlights, and household decor. Before the auction started, countless people could be seen sifting through the items that once filled the Murdaugh home. Murdaugh is currently housed in high-security Kirkland Correctional Institution, one of South Carolina's most notorious prisons. And while the disgraced former lawyer escaped the death penalty for the murder of his wife Maggie and son Paul, prosecutors recently revealed they are seeking a third life sentence conviction for financial crimes, which would mean Murdaugh will spend the rest of his life behind bars due to the state's 'three strikes' law. He is currently appealing his murder convictions, but the state is specifically seeking three additional convictions for breach of trust totaling $10,000 or more. After purchasing a bike owned by Maggie Murdaugh, Erin Craig told DailyMail.com he was planning to put the item on display in a storefront because 'it will serve its purpose best where people can look at it instead of it going to somebody's backyard' https://preview.redd.it/yktq89gj7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=2ffb1e902dcce38f4ab35afa1d2201a4a0202b13 A man looks through a box of wine up for auction at the Murdaugh estate sale Thursday https://preview.redd.it/0suyz3sm7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=0e9dc2724b7d4aea19069d21474d2f603c0f04e5 Amongst Murdaugh's expansive firearm collection up for auction was a pair of scopes https://preview.redd.it/a1hgrl6o7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=e29b4d2cc43a60d16aad4a0a1ead62bb4f1991cb Three additional convictions on the breach of trust charges would result in a life sentence, removing his chance of parole. Murdaugh called 911 on the evening of June 7, 2021, saying he found his son and wife dead when he returned home from a one-hour visit with his mother, who has dementia. Authorities said Paul was shot twice with a shotgun, each round loaded with different sized shot, while Maggie was struck with four or five bullets from a rifle. A crime scene report suggested that both victims were shot in the head after initially being wounded near dog kennels on the Murdaughs' sprawling rural property. Attorney Dick Harpootlian filed Murdaugh's appeal to the South Carolina Court of Appeals. The now-disbarred attorney admitted stealing millions of dollars from the family firm and clients, saying he needed the money to fund his drug habit. Before he was charged with murder, Murdaugh was in jail awaiting trial on about 100 other charges ranging from insurance fraud to tax evasion. Crowds sift through piles of antlers up for sale on Thursday afternoon at the auction https://preview.redd.it/aiyhm7wr7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=c05557fcd78a99aba4842141f7bc2e90a9e82d76 Decoy ducks up for auction at the Murdaugh estate on Thursday afternoon https://preview.redd.it/0fv2pewt7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=0053ee6ee927852f00b2823ce9e7d587ce6e62d5 It comes after the only surviving member of the family Buster Murdaugh, Maggie and Alex eldest son, denied 'vicious rumors' that he was involved in Stephen Smith's death after the teen's family raised $60,000 to exhume his body. Buster Murdaugh - surviving son of murderer Alex - has vehemently denied rumors he was linked to the 19 year-old's death in 2015. Cops remain tight-lipped on a potential motive and suspects for the killing, but are said to believe that Stephen's killer is known to a number of people. Smith was found dead in the middle of the road near the Murdaugh’s home in 2015 with several injuries investigators say were not consistent with a road traffic accident. Buster, 26, the sole surviving son of the disgraced legal scion Alex, who was found guilty of brutally murdering his wife Maggie and younger son Paul, was named in several police reports at the time as having a relationship with Stephen, who was gay. Boxes of shotgun shells, bullets, and rifle clips up for auction from the Murdaugh estate https://preview.redd.it/jmag8txu7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=709eab34bb0c525cc3a80514ed123101d5eefe85 A magazine full of ammunition, a camera, and a box of shotgun shells up for auction All three of the men in the Murdaugh family, Buster, Alex, and Paul, have now been accused of having a hand in the death of someone in their hometown of Colleton County. Paul was indicted after being accused of driving a boat in a fatal collision which killed Mallory Beach, 19, in 2019. The case was not resolved before his death. Alex's guilty verdict and a Netflix and HBO special on the murders has sparked renewed interest in the suspected murder of Smith. Law enforcement say they now have time to investigate following the conclusion of the double murder trial - and feel people in the small town could feel more comfortable coming forward with information. It could have severe implications for Buster, who has never been interviewed as part of the probe into Smith’s death, despite being named in several police reports. It is unclear when Smith's body is set to be exhumed, but investigators say they are now focused on the probe. In June 2021, Dailymail.com revealed that police investigating the teen's suspicious death probed witnesses over any relationship the dead boy may have had with the heir to a powerful South Carolina legal dynasty. A hunting crossbow up for sale at the Murdaugh estate sale on Thursday afternoon https://preview.redd.it/ini70zox7cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b2480931b9a25c0e65d843525920b86752edf6c Lamps made out of turtle shells up for auction at the Murdaugh home sale on Thursday. https://preview.redd.it/dztk9a7k6cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=c35e20b1baee591f1f2643cf6162f8609183a5b9 A wall of hunting trophies up for auction from the Murdaughs' mansion https://preview.redd.it/vk3llxjl6cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=ba54c6e7a9b018ec0d977c71d11dbdcc11c2f076 Since then, Netflix and HBO documentaries have alleged rumors had swirled in the small town that Buster and his late younger brother Paul were potentially involved in Smith's death. On Monday, Buster released a statement denying the 'vicious rumors' that he was involved in Smith's death. Smith’s mother Sandy has always maintained that her son, who was gay, was the victim of a hate crime and the murder covered-up. Initial investigators found no evidence of any vehicle accident, were convinced that the victim had a gunshot wound above his right eye, and received tips questioning whether Smith had a relationship with Buster. In another curious inclusion, an officer noted a tip called in on December 18 by a man claiming that his stepson had named a local guy as the one who 'struck and killed Stephen Smith.' The tipster then failed to return any calls and when finally reached, 'stated that the reason that he was passing this information on was because Randy Murdaugh told him to call.' Randy is Paul and Buster's uncle, patriarch Alex Murdaugh's brother. He offered to take Smith’s case pro-bono at the time of his death. Hunting boots belonging to the Murdaugh family up for auction on Thursday afternoon https://preview.redd.it/opatlvtm6cqa1.png?width=634&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0b799e06ca859fc3652a667e495ecc4d7292264 |
2023.03.27 20:53 partypastor Unreached People Group of the Week - Uyghurs of China
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Happy Monday everyone, welcome to another UPG of the Week. In case you didn't know, Ramadan begins this week. What is Ramadan you might wonder?
This month, rather than going around telling Muslims to just get over their idolatry (yes yes, they worship a false god, we agree on that) I thought we could take a minute to learn about these people, to pray for them and learn how to better engage them and their beliefs! Meet the Uyghur people of China!
Yes, yes, I know I have done this before, but its been 3+ years and China is still committing Genocide against these peoples and Tiktok still perpetuates it (tagging u/22duckys to back this up)
Stratus Index Ranking (Urgency): 53
Climate: A semiarid or desert climate prevails in Xinjiang. The entire region has great seasonal differences in temperature with cold winters. The Turpan Depression often records some of the hottest temperatures nationwide in summer, with air temperatures easily exceeding 40 °C (104 °F). Winter temperatures regularly fall below −20 °C (−4 °F) in the far north and highest mountain elevations. Continuous permafrost is typically found in the Tian Shan starting at the elevation of about 3,500–3,700 m above sea level. Discontinuous alpine permafrost usually occurs down to 2,700–3,300 m, but in certain locations, due to the peculiarity of the aspect and the microclimate, it can be found at elevations as low as 2,000 m.
Black Irtysh river in Burqin County is a famous spot for sightseeing.
Terrain: Xinjiang is mostly covered with uninhabitable deserts and dry grasslands, with dotted oases conducive to habitation accounting for 9.7% of Xinjiang's total area by 2015 at the foot of Tian Shan, Kunlun Mountains and Altai Mountains, respectively.
Close to Karakoram Highway in Xinjiang.
Wildlife of China: China has, according to one measure, 7,516 species of vertebrates including 4,936 fish, 1,269 bird, 562 mammal, 403 reptile and 346 amphibian species. In terms of the number of species, China ranks third in the world in mammals, eighth in birds, seventh in reptiles and seventh in amphibians. China's big cat species include the tiger, leopard, snow leopard and clouded leopard. The family Canidae has many members in China including the dog, wolf, dhole, red fox, corsac fox, Tibetan sand fox and common raccoon dog. They have the Panda bear, supposedly in the wild, though, like the Uyghurs they live almost completely in captivity. Other more common bears in China include the Asiatic black bear and the brown bear which are found across much of the country. China has a big variety of reptiles including the Chinese alligator and the Yangtze giant softshell turtle.
Unfortunately China is home to 21 primate species. :(
The Gobi Grizzly, a brown bear species in the Gobi desert
Environmental Issues: China's environmental problems, including outdoor and indoor air pollution, water shortages and pollution, desertification, and soil pollution, have become more pronounced and are subjecting Chinese residents to significant health risks. Not to mention the active genocide of its peoples.
Languages: There are as many as 292 living languages in China. Largely spoken is Mandarin Chinese. The Uyghurs in China speak Uyghur.
Government Type: Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic
Population: 11,770,000
Estimated Foreign Workers Needed: 235+
Beliefs: The Uyghurs are 0.01% Christian. That means out of their population of 11,770,000 there are roughly maybe 1,000 true believers.
Most Uyghur follow a folk Islam mixed with superstition. Islam is stronger in southern Xinjiang than in the north. Today, although almost all Uyghurs profess to be Muslims, few are aware of the time in history when the majority of Uyghurs were Christians.
A Chinese flag flies over a mosque closed by authorities in the old town of Kashgar.
Current Ongoing Genocide: China is actively destroying Uyghur culture, killing Uyghurs and supressing all news of this. I believe this video from Vice contains some helpful info. Warning, language is bad.
Since 2014, Uyghurs in Xinjiang suffer under a "fully-fledged police state" with extensive controls and restrictions upon their religious, cultural and social life. In Xinjiang, the Chinese government has expanded police surveillance to watch for signs of "religious extremism" that include owning books about Uyghurs, growing a beard, having a prayer rug, or quitting smoking or drinking. The government had also installed cameras in the homes of private citizens.
Further, at least 120,000 (and possibly over 1 million) Uyghurs are detained in mass detention camps, termed "re-education camps," aimed at changing the political thinking of detainees, their identities, and their religious beliefs. Some of these facilities keep prisoners detained around the clock, while others release their inmates at night to return home. The New York Times has reported inmates are required to "sing hymns praising the Chinese Communist Party and write 'self-criticism' essays," and that prisoners are also subjected to physical and verbal abuse by prison guards. Chinese officials are sometimes assigned to monitor the families of current inmates, and women have been detained due to actions by their sons or husbands.
The government denied the existence of the camps initially, but have changed their stance since to claiming that the camps serve to combat terrorism and give vocational training to the Uyghur people. Yet, calls by activists to open the camps to the visitors to prove their function have gone unheeded. Plus, media groups have shown that many in the camps were forcibly detained there in rough unhygienic conditions while undergoing political indoctrination.The lengthy isolation periods between Uyghur men and women has been interpreted by some analysts as an attempt to inhibit Uyghur procreation in order to change the ethnic demographics of the country.
An October 2018 exposé by the BBC News claimed, based on analysis of satellite imagery collected over time, that hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs must be interned in rapidly expanding camps. It was also reported in 2019 that "hundreds" of writers, artists, and academics had been imprisoned, in what the magazine qualified as an attempt to "punish any form of religious or cultural expression" among Uyghurs.
Parallel to the forceful detainment of millions of adults, in 2017 alone at least half a million children were also forcefully separated from their families, and placed in pre-school camps with prison-style surveillance systems and 10,000 volt electric fences. Wikipedia
Many many mosques have been actively destroyed by China.
Links from u/lannister80 that are helpful about all of this.
History: The history of the Uyghur people, as with the ethnic origin of the people, is a matter of contention. Uyghur historians viewed the Uyghurs as the original inhabitants of Xinjiang with a long history. Uyghur politician and historian Muhammad Amin Bughra wrote in his book A History of East Turkestan, stressing the Turkic aspects of his people, that the Turks have a continuous 9000-year-old history, while historian Turghun Almas incorporated discoveries of Tarim mummies to conclude that Uyghurs have over 6400 years of continuous history, and the World Uyghur Congress claimed a 4,000-year history in East Turkestan. However, the official Chinese view, as documented in the white paper History and Development of Xinjiang, asserts that the Uyghur ethnic group formed after the collapse of the Uyghur Khaganate in 840, when the local residents of the Tarim Basin and its surrounding areas were merged with migrants from the khaganate.
The early Turkic peoples descended from agricultural communities in Northeast Asia who moved westwards into Mongolia in the late 3rd millennium BC, where they adopted a pastoral lifestyle. By the early 1st millennium BC, these peoples had become equestrian nomads. In subsequent centuries, the steppe populations of Central Asia appear to have been progressively Turkified by East Asian nomadic Turks, moving out of Mongolia.
The Uyghurs of the Uyghur Khaganate were part of a Turkic confederation called the Tiele, who lived in the valleys south of Lake Baikal and around the Yenisei River. They overthrew the First Turkic Khaganate and established the Uyghur Khaganate. The Uyghur Khaganate lasted from 744 to 840. It was administered from the imperial capital Ordu-Baliq, one of the biggest ancient cities built in Mongolia. In 840, following a famine and civil war, the Uyghur Khaganate was overrun by the Yenisei Kirghiz, another Turkic people. As a result, the majority of tribal groups formerly under Uyghur control dispersed and moved out of Mongolia.
he Uyghurs who founded the Uyghur Khaganate dispersed after the fall of the Khaganate, to live among the Karluks and to places such as Jimsar, Turpan and Gansu. These Uyghurs soon founded two kingdoms and the easternmost state was the Ganzhou Kingdom (870–1036) which ruled parts of Xinjiang, with its capital near present-day Zhangye, Gansu, China. The modern Yugurs are believed to be descendants of these Uyghurs. Ganzhou was absorbed by the Western Xia in 1036.
The second Uyghur kingdom, the Kingdom of Qocho ruled a larger section of Xinjiang, also known as Uyghuristan in its later period, was founded in the Turpan area with its capital in Qocho (modern Gaochang) and Beshbalik. The Kingdom of Qocho lasted from the ninth to the fourteenth century and proved to be longer-lasting than any power in the region, before or since. The Uyghurs were originally Tengrists, shamanists, and Manichaean, but converted to Buddhism during this period. Qocho accepted the Qara Khitai as its overlord in the 1130s, and in 1209 submitted voluntarily to the rising Mongol Empire. The Uyghurs of Kingdom of Qocho were allowed significant autonomy and played an important role as civil servants to the Mongol Empire, but was finally destroyed by the Chagatai Khanate by the end of the 14th century.
In the tenth century, the Karluks, Yagmas, Chigils and other Turkic tribes founded the Kara-Khanid Khanate in Semirechye, Western Tian Shan, and Kashgaria and later conquered Transoxiana. The Karakhanid rulers were likely to be Yaghmas who were associated with the Toquz Oghuz and some historians therefore see this as a link between the Karakhanid and the Uyghurs of the Uyghur Khaganate, although this connection is disputed by others.
The Karakhanids converted to Islam in the tenth century beginning with Sultan Satuq Bughra Khan, the first Turkic dynasty to do so. Modern Uyghurs see the Muslim Karakhanids as an important part of their history; however, Islamization of the people of the Tarim Basin was a gradual process. The Indo-Iranian Saka Buddhist Kingdom of Khotan was conquered by the Turkic Muslim Karakhanids from Kashgar in the early 11th century, but Uyghur Qocho remained mainly Buddhist until the 15th century, and the conversion of the Uyghur people to Islam was not completed until the 17th century.
In the 17th century, the Buddhist Dzungar Khanate grew in power in Dzungaria. The Dzungar conquest of Altishahr ended the last independent Chagatai Khanate, the Yarkent Khanate, after the Aqtaghlik Afaq Khoja sought aid from the 5th Dalai Lama and his Dzungar Buddhist followers to help him in his struggle against the Qarataghlik Khojas. The Aqtaghlik Khojas in the Tarim Basin then became vassals to the Dzungars.
The expansion of the Dzungars into Khalkha Mongol territory in Mongolia brought them into direct conflict with Qing China in the late 17th century, and in the process also brought Chinese presence back into the region a thousand years after Tang China lost control of the Western Regions.
The Dzungar–Qing War lasted a decade. During the Dzungar conflict, two Aqtaghlik brothers, the so-called "Younger Khoja" (Chinese: 霍集佔), also known as Khwāja-i Jahān, and his sibling, the Elder Khoja (Chinese: 波羅尼都), also known as Burhān al-Dīn, after being appointed as vassals in the Tarim Basin by the Dzungars, first joined the Qing and rebelled against Dzungar rule until the final Qing victory over the Dzungars, then they rebelled against the Qing in the Revolt of the Altishahr Khojas (1757–1759), an action which prompted the invasion and conquest of the Tarim Basin by the Qing in 1759. The Uyghurs of Turfan and Hami such as Emin Khoja were allies of the Qing in this conflict, and these Uyghurs also helped the Qing rule the Altishahr Uyghurs in the Tarim Basin.
During the Dungan Revolt (1862–1877), Andijani Uzbeks from the Khanate of Kokand under Buzurg Khan and Yaqub Beg expelled Qing officials from parts of southern Xinjiang and founded an independent Kashgarian kingdom called Yettishar ("Country of Seven Cities"). Under the leadership of Yaqub Beg, it included Kashgar, Yarkand, Khotan, Aksu, Kucha, Korla, and Turpan. Large Qing dynasty forces under Chinese General Zuo Zongtang attacked Yettishar in 1876.
After this invasion, the two regions of Dzungaria, which had been known as the Dzungar region or the Northern marches of the Tian Shan, and the Tarim Basin, which had been known as "Muslim land" or southern marches of the Tian Shan, were reorganized into a province named Xinjiang, meaning "New Territory".
In 1912, the Qing Dynasty was replaced by the Republic of China. By 1920, Pan-Turkic Jadidists had become a challenge to Chinese warlord Yang Zengxin, who controlled Xinjiang. Uyghurs staged several uprisings against Chinese rule. In 1931, the Kumul Rebellion erupted, leading to the establishment of an independent government in Khotan in 1932, which later led to the creation of the First East Turkestan Republic, officially known as the Turkish Islamic Republic of East Turkestan. Uyghurs joined with Uzbeks, Kazakhs, and Kyrgyz and successfully declared their independence on 12 November 1933. The First East Turkestan Republic was a short-lived attempt at independence around the areas encompassing Kashgar, Yarkent, and Khotan, and it was attacked during the Qumul Rebellion by a Chinese Muslim army under General Ma Zhancang and Ma Fuyuan and fell following the Battle of Kashgar (1934). The Soviets backed Chinese warlord Sheng Shicai's rule over East Turkestan/Xinjiang from 1934 to 1943. In April 1937, remnants of the First East Turkestan Republic launched an uprising known as the Islamic Rebellion in Xinjiang and briefly established an independent government, controlling areas from Atush, Kashgar, Yarkent, and even parts of Khotan, before it was crushed in October 1937, following Soviet intervention. Sheng Shicai purged 50,000 to 100,000 people, mostly Uyghurs, following this uprising.
The oppressive reign of Sheng Shicai fueled discontent by Uyghur and other Turkic peoples of the region, and Sheng expelled Soviet advisors following U.S. support for the Kuomintang of the Republic of China. This led the Soviets to capitalize on the Uyghur and other Turkic people's discontent in the region, culminating in their support of the Ili Rebellion in October 1944. The Ili Rebellion resulted in the establishment of the Second East Turkestan Republic on 12 November 1944, in the three districts of what is now the Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture. Several pro-KMT Uyghurs like Isa Yusuf Alptekin, Memet Emin Bugra, and Mesut Sabri opposed the Second East Turkestan Republic and supported the Republic of China. In the summer of 1949, the Soviets purged the thirty top leaders of the Second East Turkestan Republic and its five top officials died in a mysterious plane crash on 27 August 1949. On 13 October 1949, the People's Liberation Army entered the region and the East Turkestan National Army was merged into the PLA's 5th Army Corps, leading to the official end of the Second East Turkestan Republic on 22 December 1949.
Mao declared the founding of the People's Republic of China on 1 October 1949. He turned the Second East Turkistan Republic into the Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture, and appointed Saifuddin Azizi as the region's first Communist Party governor. Many Republican loyalists fled into exile in Turkey and Western countries. The name Xinjiang was changed to Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, where Uyghurs are the largest ethnicity, mostly concentrated in the south-western Xinjiang.
Currently they are being put into concentration camps by the evil Chinese government regime that is actively committing genocide on them.
Scene from the 1828 Qing campaign against rebels in Altishahr
Culture: Typical qualification that all people groups can't be summed up in small paragraphs and this is an over generalization.
Many Uyghur raise cotton, grapes, melons, and fruit trees through an ingenious irrigation system which pipes mountain water into the desert oases.
Most Uighurs (also spelled “Uyghurs” or “Uighers” in Western media) practice Islam and speak a Turkic language that’s completely different from Mandarin Chinese. Uighurs share more ethnic and cultural similarities with Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Mongolia ― China’s northern and western neighbors on the Eurasian Steppe ― than with the rest of China itself. “We don’t have any connection with the Chinese. We don’t look Chinese, we don’t speak the same language and we don’t eat the same food,” a Uighur, who asked to be referred to as Billy, told The Telegraph in 2009. “And we are Muslims, we believe in Allah. The Chinese only believe in money.”
The Chinese government considers Xinjiang an “autonomous region,” meaning it has a self-appointed local government. It is not, however, even remotely “autonomous,” despite the name’s implication. (Tibet is also an “autonomous” region).
It is worth noting that Xinjiang is also home to a substantial portion of the country’s most valuable natural resources, which at least partially explains China’s interest. In addition to sizable mineral reserves of iron ore and gold, the region claims about 38 percent of the country’s coal reserves and 25 percent of its petroleum and natural gas, according to government figures. Huff Post
A common Uyghur dish is läghmän (Uyghur: لەڭمەن, ләғмән; Chinese: 手拉麵; pinyin: shǒu lāmiàn), boiled hand-pulled noodles made with wheat flour and eaten with säy, a stir-fried topping usually made with mutton, onions, peppers, tomatoes, and other seasonal vegetables.
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Here are the previous weeks threads on the UPG of the Week for Reformed from 2023 (plus a few from 2022 so this one post isn't so lonely). To save some space on these, all UPG posts made 2019-now are here, I will try to keep this current.
* Tibet belongs to Tibet, not China.
** Russia/Turkey/etc is Europe but also Asia so...
*** this likely is not the true religion that they worship, but rather they have a mixture of what is listed with other local religions, or they have embraced a liberal drift and are leaving faith entirely but this is their historical faith.
As always, if you have experience in this country or with this people group, feel free to comment or let me know and I will happily edit it so that we can better pray for these peoples! I shouldn't have to include this, but please don't come here to argue with people or to promote universalism. I am a moderator so we will see this if you do.
Here is a list of definitions in case you wonder what exactly I mean by words like "Unreached".
Here is a list of missions organizations that reach out to the world to do missions for the Glory of God.
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Happy Monday everyone, welcome to another UPG of the Week. In case you didn't know, Ramadan begins this week. What is Ramadan you might wonder?
Ramadan is the ninth month of the Islamic calendar, observed by Muslims worldwide as a month of fasting (sawm), prayer, reflection and community. A commemoration of Muhammad's first revelation, the annual observance of Ramadan is regarded as one of the Five Pillars of Islam and lasts twenty-nine to thirty days, from one sighting of the crescent moon to the next. The month of Ramadan is a time when Muslims are very aware of dreams and visions. They believe dreams are a direct way that Allah chooses to reveal himself to people. During this time of heightened spiritual focus, Muslims are often seeking a special message or revelation. As Christians have prayed earnestly for their Muslim neighbors and friends during this season, they hear reports of dreams and visions in which Jesus appears to these friends and draws them to Himself.So, that means for the entire month I will be picking Muslim peoples groups for us to be praying for!
This month, rather than going around telling Muslims to just get over their idolatry (yes yes, they worship a false god, we agree on that) I thought we could take a minute to learn about these people, to pray for them and learn how to better engage them and their beliefs! Meet the Uyghur people of China!
Yes, yes, I know I have done this before, but its been 3+ years and China is still committing Genocide against these peoples and Tiktok still perpetuates it (tagging u/22duckys to back this up)
Region: China - Xinjiang
mapStratus Index Ranking (Urgency): 53
Climate: A semiarid or desert climate prevails in Xinjiang. The entire region has great seasonal differences in temperature with cold winters. The Turpan Depression often records some of the hottest temperatures nationwide in summer, with air temperatures easily exceeding 40 °C (104 °F). Winter temperatures regularly fall below −20 °C (−4 °F) in the far north and highest mountain elevations. Continuous permafrost is typically found in the Tian Shan starting at the elevation of about 3,500–3,700 m above sea level. Discontinuous alpine permafrost usually occurs down to 2,700–3,300 m, but in certain locations, due to the peculiarity of the aspect and the microclimate, it can be found at elevations as low as 2,000 m.
Black Irtysh river in Burqin County is a famous spot for sightseeing.
Terrain: Xinjiang is mostly covered with uninhabitable deserts and dry grasslands, with dotted oases conducive to habitation accounting for 9.7% of Xinjiang's total area by 2015 at the foot of Tian Shan, Kunlun Mountains and Altai Mountains, respectively.
Close to Karakoram Highway in Xinjiang.
Wildlife of China: China has, according to one measure, 7,516 species of vertebrates including 4,936 fish, 1,269 bird, 562 mammal, 403 reptile and 346 amphibian species. In terms of the number of species, China ranks third in the world in mammals, eighth in birds, seventh in reptiles and seventh in amphibians. China's big cat species include the tiger, leopard, snow leopard and clouded leopard. The family Canidae has many members in China including the dog, wolf, dhole, red fox, corsac fox, Tibetan sand fox and common raccoon dog. They have the Panda bear, supposedly in the wild, though, like the Uyghurs they live almost completely in captivity. Other more common bears in China include the Asiatic black bear and the brown bear which are found across much of the country. China has a big variety of reptiles including the Chinese alligator and the Yangtze giant softshell turtle.
Unfortunately China is home to 21 primate species. :(
The Gobi Grizzly, a brown bear species in the Gobi desert
Environmental Issues: China's environmental problems, including outdoor and indoor air pollution, water shortages and pollution, desertification, and soil pollution, have become more pronounced and are subjecting Chinese residents to significant health risks. Not to mention the active genocide of its peoples.
Languages: There are as many as 292 living languages in China. Largely spoken is Mandarin Chinese. The Uyghurs in China speak Uyghur.
Government Type: Unitary Marxist–Leninist one-party socialist republic
People: The Uyghurs of China
Uyghur manPopulation: 11,770,000
Estimated Foreign Workers Needed: 235+
Beliefs: The Uyghurs are 0.01% Christian. That means out of their population of 11,770,000 there are roughly maybe 1,000 true believers.
Most Uyghur follow a folk Islam mixed with superstition. Islam is stronger in southern Xinjiang than in the north. Today, although almost all Uyghurs profess to be Muslims, few are aware of the time in history when the majority of Uyghurs were Christians.
A Chinese flag flies over a mosque closed by authorities in the old town of Kashgar.
Current Ongoing Genocide: China is actively destroying Uyghur culture, killing Uyghurs and supressing all news of this. I believe this video from Vice contains some helpful info. Warning, language is bad.
Since 2014, Uyghurs in Xinjiang suffer under a "fully-fledged police state" with extensive controls and restrictions upon their religious, cultural and social life. In Xinjiang, the Chinese government has expanded police surveillance to watch for signs of "religious extremism" that include owning books about Uyghurs, growing a beard, having a prayer rug, or quitting smoking or drinking. The government had also installed cameras in the homes of private citizens.
Further, at least 120,000 (and possibly over 1 million) Uyghurs are detained in mass detention camps, termed "re-education camps," aimed at changing the political thinking of detainees, their identities, and their religious beliefs. Some of these facilities keep prisoners detained around the clock, while others release their inmates at night to return home. The New York Times has reported inmates are required to "sing hymns praising the Chinese Communist Party and write 'self-criticism' essays," and that prisoners are also subjected to physical and verbal abuse by prison guards. Chinese officials are sometimes assigned to monitor the families of current inmates, and women have been detained due to actions by their sons or husbands.
The government denied the existence of the camps initially, but have changed their stance since to claiming that the camps serve to combat terrorism and give vocational training to the Uyghur people. Yet, calls by activists to open the camps to the visitors to prove their function have gone unheeded. Plus, media groups have shown that many in the camps were forcibly detained there in rough unhygienic conditions while undergoing political indoctrination.The lengthy isolation periods between Uyghur men and women has been interpreted by some analysts as an attempt to inhibit Uyghur procreation in order to change the ethnic demographics of the country.
An October 2018 exposé by the BBC News claimed, based on analysis of satellite imagery collected over time, that hundreds of thousands of Uyghurs must be interned in rapidly expanding camps. It was also reported in 2019 that "hundreds" of writers, artists, and academics had been imprisoned, in what the magazine qualified as an attempt to "punish any form of religious or cultural expression" among Uyghurs.
Parallel to the forceful detainment of millions of adults, in 2017 alone at least half a million children were also forcefully separated from their families, and placed in pre-school camps with prison-style surveillance systems and 10,000 volt electric fences. Wikipedia
Many many mosques have been actively destroyed by China.
Links from u/lannister80 that are helpful about all of this.
- China’s attacks on Uighur women are crimes against humanity
- Rape, torture and human experiments. Sayragul Sauytbay offers firsthand testimony from a Xinjiang 'reeducation' camp
- Secret documents reveal how China mass detention camps work
- Sources citing former detainees allege torture, sexual abuse, forced abortions, and, perhaps most common and shocking, the forced sterilization of detained Uighur women.
History: The history of the Uyghur people, as with the ethnic origin of the people, is a matter of contention. Uyghur historians viewed the Uyghurs as the original inhabitants of Xinjiang with a long history. Uyghur politician and historian Muhammad Amin Bughra wrote in his book A History of East Turkestan, stressing the Turkic aspects of his people, that the Turks have a continuous 9000-year-old history, while historian Turghun Almas incorporated discoveries of Tarim mummies to conclude that Uyghurs have over 6400 years of continuous history, and the World Uyghur Congress claimed a 4,000-year history in East Turkestan. However, the official Chinese view, as documented in the white paper History and Development of Xinjiang, asserts that the Uyghur ethnic group formed after the collapse of the Uyghur Khaganate in 840, when the local residents of the Tarim Basin and its surrounding areas were merged with migrants from the khaganate.
The early Turkic peoples descended from agricultural communities in Northeast Asia who moved westwards into Mongolia in the late 3rd millennium BC, where they adopted a pastoral lifestyle. By the early 1st millennium BC, these peoples had become equestrian nomads. In subsequent centuries, the steppe populations of Central Asia appear to have been progressively Turkified by East Asian nomadic Turks, moving out of Mongolia.
The Uyghurs of the Uyghur Khaganate were part of a Turkic confederation called the Tiele, who lived in the valleys south of Lake Baikal and around the Yenisei River. They overthrew the First Turkic Khaganate and established the Uyghur Khaganate. The Uyghur Khaganate lasted from 744 to 840. It was administered from the imperial capital Ordu-Baliq, one of the biggest ancient cities built in Mongolia. In 840, following a famine and civil war, the Uyghur Khaganate was overrun by the Yenisei Kirghiz, another Turkic people. As a result, the majority of tribal groups formerly under Uyghur control dispersed and moved out of Mongolia.
he Uyghurs who founded the Uyghur Khaganate dispersed after the fall of the Khaganate, to live among the Karluks and to places such as Jimsar, Turpan and Gansu. These Uyghurs soon founded two kingdoms and the easternmost state was the Ganzhou Kingdom (870–1036) which ruled parts of Xinjiang, with its capital near present-day Zhangye, Gansu, China. The modern Yugurs are believed to be descendants of these Uyghurs. Ganzhou was absorbed by the Western Xia in 1036.
The second Uyghur kingdom, the Kingdom of Qocho ruled a larger section of Xinjiang, also known as Uyghuristan in its later period, was founded in the Turpan area with its capital in Qocho (modern Gaochang) and Beshbalik. The Kingdom of Qocho lasted from the ninth to the fourteenth century and proved to be longer-lasting than any power in the region, before or since. The Uyghurs were originally Tengrists, shamanists, and Manichaean, but converted to Buddhism during this period. Qocho accepted the Qara Khitai as its overlord in the 1130s, and in 1209 submitted voluntarily to the rising Mongol Empire. The Uyghurs of Kingdom of Qocho were allowed significant autonomy and played an important role as civil servants to the Mongol Empire, but was finally destroyed by the Chagatai Khanate by the end of the 14th century.
In the tenth century, the Karluks, Yagmas, Chigils and other Turkic tribes founded the Kara-Khanid Khanate in Semirechye, Western Tian Shan, and Kashgaria and later conquered Transoxiana. The Karakhanid rulers were likely to be Yaghmas who were associated with the Toquz Oghuz and some historians therefore see this as a link between the Karakhanid and the Uyghurs of the Uyghur Khaganate, although this connection is disputed by others.
The Karakhanids converted to Islam in the tenth century beginning with Sultan Satuq Bughra Khan, the first Turkic dynasty to do so. Modern Uyghurs see the Muslim Karakhanids as an important part of their history; however, Islamization of the people of the Tarim Basin was a gradual process. The Indo-Iranian Saka Buddhist Kingdom of Khotan was conquered by the Turkic Muslim Karakhanids from Kashgar in the early 11th century, but Uyghur Qocho remained mainly Buddhist until the 15th century, and the conversion of the Uyghur people to Islam was not completed until the 17th century.
In the 17th century, the Buddhist Dzungar Khanate grew in power in Dzungaria. The Dzungar conquest of Altishahr ended the last independent Chagatai Khanate, the Yarkent Khanate, after the Aqtaghlik Afaq Khoja sought aid from the 5th Dalai Lama and his Dzungar Buddhist followers to help him in his struggle against the Qarataghlik Khojas. The Aqtaghlik Khojas in the Tarim Basin then became vassals to the Dzungars.
The expansion of the Dzungars into Khalkha Mongol territory in Mongolia brought them into direct conflict with Qing China in the late 17th century, and in the process also brought Chinese presence back into the region a thousand years after Tang China lost control of the Western Regions.
The Dzungar–Qing War lasted a decade. During the Dzungar conflict, two Aqtaghlik brothers, the so-called "Younger Khoja" (Chinese: 霍集佔), also known as Khwāja-i Jahān, and his sibling, the Elder Khoja (Chinese: 波羅尼都), also known as Burhān al-Dīn, after being appointed as vassals in the Tarim Basin by the Dzungars, first joined the Qing and rebelled against Dzungar rule until the final Qing victory over the Dzungars, then they rebelled against the Qing in the Revolt of the Altishahr Khojas (1757–1759), an action which prompted the invasion and conquest of the Tarim Basin by the Qing in 1759. The Uyghurs of Turfan and Hami such as Emin Khoja were allies of the Qing in this conflict, and these Uyghurs also helped the Qing rule the Altishahr Uyghurs in the Tarim Basin.
During the Dungan Revolt (1862–1877), Andijani Uzbeks from the Khanate of Kokand under Buzurg Khan and Yaqub Beg expelled Qing officials from parts of southern Xinjiang and founded an independent Kashgarian kingdom called Yettishar ("Country of Seven Cities"). Under the leadership of Yaqub Beg, it included Kashgar, Yarkand, Khotan, Aksu, Kucha, Korla, and Turpan. Large Qing dynasty forces under Chinese General Zuo Zongtang attacked Yettishar in 1876.
After this invasion, the two regions of Dzungaria, which had been known as the Dzungar region or the Northern marches of the Tian Shan, and the Tarim Basin, which had been known as "Muslim land" or southern marches of the Tian Shan, were reorganized into a province named Xinjiang, meaning "New Territory".
In 1912, the Qing Dynasty was replaced by the Republic of China. By 1920, Pan-Turkic Jadidists had become a challenge to Chinese warlord Yang Zengxin, who controlled Xinjiang. Uyghurs staged several uprisings against Chinese rule. In 1931, the Kumul Rebellion erupted, leading to the establishment of an independent government in Khotan in 1932, which later led to the creation of the First East Turkestan Republic, officially known as the Turkish Islamic Republic of East Turkestan. Uyghurs joined with Uzbeks, Kazakhs, and Kyrgyz and successfully declared their independence on 12 November 1933. The First East Turkestan Republic was a short-lived attempt at independence around the areas encompassing Kashgar, Yarkent, and Khotan, and it was attacked during the Qumul Rebellion by a Chinese Muslim army under General Ma Zhancang and Ma Fuyuan and fell following the Battle of Kashgar (1934). The Soviets backed Chinese warlord Sheng Shicai's rule over East Turkestan/Xinjiang from 1934 to 1943. In April 1937, remnants of the First East Turkestan Republic launched an uprising known as the Islamic Rebellion in Xinjiang and briefly established an independent government, controlling areas from Atush, Kashgar, Yarkent, and even parts of Khotan, before it was crushed in October 1937, following Soviet intervention. Sheng Shicai purged 50,000 to 100,000 people, mostly Uyghurs, following this uprising.
The oppressive reign of Sheng Shicai fueled discontent by Uyghur and other Turkic peoples of the region, and Sheng expelled Soviet advisors following U.S. support for the Kuomintang of the Republic of China. This led the Soviets to capitalize on the Uyghur and other Turkic people's discontent in the region, culminating in their support of the Ili Rebellion in October 1944. The Ili Rebellion resulted in the establishment of the Second East Turkestan Republic on 12 November 1944, in the three districts of what is now the Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture. Several pro-KMT Uyghurs like Isa Yusuf Alptekin, Memet Emin Bugra, and Mesut Sabri opposed the Second East Turkestan Republic and supported the Republic of China. In the summer of 1949, the Soviets purged the thirty top leaders of the Second East Turkestan Republic and its five top officials died in a mysterious plane crash on 27 August 1949. On 13 October 1949, the People's Liberation Army entered the region and the East Turkestan National Army was merged into the PLA's 5th Army Corps, leading to the official end of the Second East Turkestan Republic on 22 December 1949.
Mao declared the founding of the People's Republic of China on 1 October 1949. He turned the Second East Turkistan Republic into the Ili Kazakh Autonomous Prefecture, and appointed Saifuddin Azizi as the region's first Communist Party governor. Many Republican loyalists fled into exile in Turkey and Western countries. The name Xinjiang was changed to Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region, where Uyghurs are the largest ethnicity, mostly concentrated in the south-western Xinjiang.
Currently they are being put into concentration camps by the evil Chinese government regime that is actively committing genocide on them.
Scene from the 1828 Qing campaign against rebels in Altishahr
Culture: Typical qualification that all people groups can't be summed up in small paragraphs and this is an over generalization.
Many Uyghur raise cotton, grapes, melons, and fruit trees through an ingenious irrigation system which pipes mountain water into the desert oases.
Most Uighurs (also spelled “Uyghurs” or “Uighers” in Western media) practice Islam and speak a Turkic language that’s completely different from Mandarin Chinese. Uighurs share more ethnic and cultural similarities with Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan and Mongolia ― China’s northern and western neighbors on the Eurasian Steppe ― than with the rest of China itself. “We don’t have any connection with the Chinese. We don’t look Chinese, we don’t speak the same language and we don’t eat the same food,” a Uighur, who asked to be referred to as Billy, told The Telegraph in 2009. “And we are Muslims, we believe in Allah. The Chinese only believe in money.”
The Chinese government considers Xinjiang an “autonomous region,” meaning it has a self-appointed local government. It is not, however, even remotely “autonomous,” despite the name’s implication. (Tibet is also an “autonomous” region).
It is worth noting that Xinjiang is also home to a substantial portion of the country’s most valuable natural resources, which at least partially explains China’s interest. In addition to sizable mineral reserves of iron ore and gold, the region claims about 38 percent of the country’s coal reserves and 25 percent of its petroleum and natural gas, according to government figures. Huff Post
A common Uyghur dish is läghmän (Uyghur: لەڭمەن, ләғмән; Chinese: 手拉麵; pinyin: shǒu lāmiàn), boiled hand-pulled noodles made with wheat flour and eaten with säy, a stir-fried topping usually made with mutton, onions, peppers, tomatoes, and other seasonal vegetables.
Prayer Request:
- Pray that the millions of Uyghurs who have been detained and placed in internment camps would be treated as ones made in God's image.
- Pray that Han Chinese believers would lead the way and demonstrate the compassion of Christ towards the Uyghurs.
- Pray that Uyghur believers would be strengthened in the Lord as they suffer
- Pray that Uyghur believers would share their awesome Hope in Christ with other Uyghurs.
- Pray that a movement would begin of Uyghurs finding Jesus in their place of pain, that God would use this very suffering to lead them to the Kingdom.
- Ask the Holy Spirit to supernaturally reveal Jesus as the way to true peace.
- Ask the Lord to soften the hearts of the Uyghur towards the Gospel message.
- Ask God to raise up prayer teams who will begin breaking up the soil through worship and intercession.
- Pray that strong local churches will be raised up among the Uyghur.
- Pray for the protection and provision of any local believers and their families.
- Pray that our brothers and sisters will persevere through difficulties and persecution.
- Pray for ongoing Bible translation work as well as radio, TV and social media ministries.
- Pray for believers who gather in house fellowships for prayer, encouragement and worship.
- Pray for greater access to God’s Word through translations into every language and for every tribal group.
- Pray for front-line workers involved in evangelism, discipleship and house churches.
- Pray for Muslims around the world, that in this time of fasting, they would come to see their true satisfaction is found in Jesus Christ alone
- Pray for Christians that will interact with Muslims in this season, that we would love them gently, pointing them to the truth that is only found in Jesus.
- Ask the Lord to call people who are willing to go to China and share Christ with the nation.
- Ask God to use the few Uyghur believers to share Christ with their own people.
- Pray that God will open the hearts of Afghanistan's governmental and religious leaders to the Gospel.
- Pray against Putin and his insane little war.
- Pray for our nation (the United States), that we Christians can learn to come alongside our hurting brothers and sisters and learn to carry one another's burdens in a more Christlike manner than we have done historically.
- Pray that in this time of chaos and panic that the needs of the unreached are not forgotten by the church. Pray that our hearts continue to ache to see the unreached hear the Good News.
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Here are the previous weeks threads on the UPG of the Week for Reformed from 2023 (plus a few from 2022 so this one post isn't so lonely). To save some space on these, all UPG posts made 2019-now are here, I will try to keep this current.
| People Group | Country | Continent | Date Posted | Beliefs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Uyghur (2nd) | China | Asia | 03/27/2023 | Islam |
| Aimaq | Afghanistan | Asia | 03/20/2023 | Islam |
| Shughni | Tajikistan | Asia | 03/13/2023 | Islam |
| Punjabi | Canada | North America | 03/06/2023 | Sikhism |
| Kurds | Turkey | Asia** | 02/13/2023 | Islam*** |
| Krymchak | Ukraine* | Europe** | 02/06/2023 | Judaism |
| Talysh | Azerbaijan | Asia** | 01/30/2023 | Islam |
| Shan | Myanmar | Asia | 01/23/2023 | Buddhism*** |
| Shaikh - 2nd post | Bangladesh | Asia | 01/09/2023 | Islam |
| Hindi | United States | North America | 12/19/2022 | Hinduism |
| Somali | Finland | Europe | 12/05/2022 | Islam |
| Hemshin | Turkey | Asia** | 11/28/2022 | Islam |
| Waorani (Reached) | Ecuador | South America | 11/21/2022 | Christianity |
** Russia/Turkey/etc is Europe but also Asia so...
*** this likely is not the true religion that they worship, but rather they have a mixture of what is listed with other local religions, or they have embraced a liberal drift and are leaving faith entirely but this is their historical faith.
As always, if you have experience in this country or with this people group, feel free to comment or let me know and I will happily edit it so that we can better pray for these peoples! I shouldn't have to include this, but please don't come here to argue with people or to promote universalism. I am a moderator so we will see this if you do.
Here is a list of definitions in case you wonder what exactly I mean by words like "Unreached".
Here is a list of missions organizations that reach out to the world to do missions for the Glory of God.
2023.03.27 20:11 Psychological_Love40 Just looking for someone’s opinion and maybe some emotional support lol
Sentenced to a year of probation in Lehigh County PA, had to transfer it to Northampton County PA cuz that’s where I live. Finished in 2 months. No violations, no warnings, no failed UA’s (just a handful of missed ones due to not being able to pay for them but my p.o never made a big deal of it). Was supposed to complete an IOP program. Between work and school and taking care of my kid, never found the time to finish it. I know this is a violation. My question is, how likely is it I’m looking at jail time?
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2023.03.27 19:58 himynameis4949 1st DUI offense w/ hit & run (injury)
Back in August I was leaving a friend's house in Santa Barbara. Was intoxicated. A Uber driver ended up pulling the brakes too hard and I hit him. I took off because I was super scared. The man chased me down on the freeway and I was even more scared. He finally stopped but I was then pulled over like 20 minutes later in Ventura county and was arrested on a DUI Charge .15 . Was released the following day . Haven't been charged for the DUI in Ventura but the DA's office in Santa Barbara finally charged me for a felony hit & run (+) a DUI. my lawyer said that the DUI won't hold up in court because they can't prove I was driving intoxicated at the time of the hit & run. Am I facing possible jail time or am I just spiraling? My insurance company already spoke with the person I hit. They claimed they hurt their shoulder but their lawyer settled under my policy amount back in January. I have completed 3 months of DUI mandatory meetings (which my lawyer said I should do) and I'm doing AA classes oftenly as well. Had court last Wednesday and plead not guilty. DA asked me to wear an ankle bracelet since I live outside of the county (but my lawyer says that technically works in my favor since the judge will see that I'm changing my lifestyle and not drinking at all)
I feel like I have a pretty good case but I suffer from extreme anxiety. Can't sleep, can't eat. This is the first time im in trouble with the law and I feel terrible because I'm not a bad person that makes these kind of decisions. Is there any way to get my charges reduced? Avoid more jail time? Thank you, Erik
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I feel like I have a pretty good case but I suffer from extreme anxiety. Can't sleep, can't eat. This is the first time im in trouble with the law and I feel terrible because I'm not a bad person that makes these kind of decisions. Is there any way to get my charges reduced? Avoid more jail time? Thank you, Erik
2023.03.27 19:22 Totoro631 33[M4F] Anywhere - Godzilla looking for his Mothra
About me:
I’m a nerdy guy from NY. I'm a 6'9" and from Suffolk County on Long Island. Of course I’m in to anime, sci-fi stuff, manga and all that jazz. I also like photography, cooking, baking, camping. A big coffee addict too. I do love Pokemon as well. It just feels like it’s always been a constant in my life. Though, I haven’t too much time to play the newest game. Even one of those nerds who had his own custom card made. I love to travel, but don't get to do it much. I have been to Japan twice though and love it there.
I enjoy finding new spots in my area to check out like cafe's, game stores and thrift stores. I work for a PR and Management company. Film photography is one of my favorite hobbies. I like going to conventions as well. My personal favorite is MAGFest. I have been learning a little bit of Japanese, though I did decide to take a break and learn another language.
So, what am I looking for?
I feel I'm kind of pickier as I get older lol.
Some one who will nerd out with me. A girl who’s in to anime and gaming. A person who will want to go on random adventures. I would love a person who likes to go to conventions and have fun and maybe do a cosplay. I am a photographer, so free photo shoots for your cosplay too! Some one who will geek out with me over the dumbest things. Get hype when they get a shiny in Pokemon or even just lazy days marathoning the worst movies we can find or go down a YouTube hole.
I guess I do prefer shorter women. like 5'6" and smaller. I don't know, I just like the height difference thing lol.
I would love to find some one local to Suffolk or Nassau. But totally fine with wherever!
Yeah, that's kind of what I am looking for.
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I’m a nerdy guy from NY. I'm a 6'9" and from Suffolk County on Long Island. Of course I’m in to anime, sci-fi stuff, manga and all that jazz. I also like photography, cooking, baking, camping. A big coffee addict too. I do love Pokemon as well. It just feels like it’s always been a constant in my life. Though, I haven’t too much time to play the newest game. Even one of those nerds who had his own custom card made. I love to travel, but don't get to do it much. I have been to Japan twice though and love it there.
I enjoy finding new spots in my area to check out like cafe's, game stores and thrift stores. I work for a PR and Management company. Film photography is one of my favorite hobbies. I like going to conventions as well. My personal favorite is MAGFest. I have been learning a little bit of Japanese, though I did decide to take a break and learn another language.
So, what am I looking for?
I feel I'm kind of pickier as I get older lol.
Some one who will nerd out with me. A girl who’s in to anime and gaming. A person who will want to go on random adventures. I would love a person who likes to go to conventions and have fun and maybe do a cosplay. I am a photographer, so free photo shoots for your cosplay too! Some one who will geek out with me over the dumbest things. Get hype when they get a shiny in Pokemon or even just lazy days marathoning the worst movies we can find or go down a YouTube hole.
I guess I do prefer shorter women. like 5'6" and smaller. I don't know, I just like the height difference thing lol.
I would love to find some one local to Suffolk or Nassau. But totally fine with wherever!
Yeah, that's kind of what I am looking for.
2023.03.27 19:08 Old_Heart_7780 Monday (Part 1)
I thought I’d try something new today given that it’s Monday and someone’s former day off. I say former because he had to stop working. I can imagine the stress of everyone giving you that side glance when you drive your forklift down the production line gets old after while. Everyone talking behind your back. They know what you were up to that cold Indiana winter six years ago— downloading kiddie porn on your own Comcast account. Making a Monday trip to Delphi with your 22 year old unemployed son.
You and your son, who had been catfishing a smart young 14 year old girl from that small town. It defies logic that people think it’s all just one big coincidence. That is your son catfishing this young girl and her friends. The fact the catfishing account your son created just so happened to be up bright and early that Monday morning. Your son who has never held a real job—let alone roll out of bed before noon on a Monday. Besides we know your son blocked this young Delphi girl. So why is he suddenly up chatting on a Monday morning.
Could it be that “daddy” man was obsessing that Monday. Obsessing that he was going to be arrested if anyone tracked that fake catfishing account, that had been exploiting and grooming young vulnerable teenage girls in Miami County and the surrounding counties. I couldn’t imagine a 22 year old unemployed man/boy worried about much of anything on an early Monday morning. Except of course whether or not the angry old man he’d been living with all that winter was going to spring for a healthy Hardee’s lunch once his tummy starts to grumble.
It’s no coincidence the anthony_shots catfishing account was chatting with Libby that morning.
It’s no coincidence the UAW “daddy” man had Monday’s off.
It’s no coincidence someone known for peeping in little girl windows was seen peeping in LIbby’s friends window the following Monday—- the event that exposed a killer.
It’s no coincidence the “daddy” man was panicking that weekend and Monday. Elliot Shoffner had a an army of FBI agents on him at 7:20AM February 10, 2017 after leaving a graveyard shift at a local manufacturing plant in Kokomo, Indiana.
It’s no coincidence someone had access to a purple PT Cruiser described in Richard Allen’s arrest probable cause affidavit. Perhaps that purple PT Cruiser was caught on that Hoosier Harvestore security camera. Who knows why that purple PT Cruiser is mentioned in that arrest PCA.
It’s no coincidence both men came from that tiny town of Mexico. Indiana— including someone’s wife who was from that same tiny town. A wife whose brother and caretaker of their mother had just been buried in that small town of Mexico that late Fall. A wife distracted that winter taking care of her mother and no time to keep her husband of 25 years in line.
It’s no coincidence the “daddy” man lived in Young America for many years— just a few minutes away from that hiking trail and dangerous bridge. A guy that loves to hunt— recognizing the perfect hunting ground.A 70’ high abandoned and dilapidated railroad bridge that led nowhere. A trap.
It’s no coincidence one of the most likely suspects in the fiendishly brutal murders of two teenage girls had a criminal record for sadistically beating and stalking young children.
It’s no coincidence that same man lived less than two miles from that Kelly Street Bridge in Peru Indiana where the Indiana State Police held one of the most extensive searches in that law enforcement agencies history.
It’s no coincidence that man’s son sitting in jail for two plus years was suddenly rumored to be seen at that bridge with two ISP detectives shortly before that search in the muddy Wabash River began.
It’s no coincidence that Wabash River search began and suddenly the nephew/cousin was picked up on a year old DUI warrant by US Marshals and held over for one week. No doubt someone that saw the two of them in that purple PT Cruiser, that day when the phone was left near a house on Country Club Rd.
It’s no coincidence the Wabash River search ended on an early Monday afternoon, and no doubt whatever was found took a quick helicopter trip to the nearest large airport and a trip to Quantico FBI Forensics lab.
It’s no coincidence just a week after the Wabash River search ends the same ISP investigators show up on Paw Paw Pike in Peru sifting through ashes in a backyard of a relative of the two men who have their names all over that Wabash River search.
It’s no coincidence the ISP had no sooner wrapped up that week long ash sifting party in Peru, and they are seen in the early predawn hours behind a house on Whiteman Road— 40 miles away in Delphi, Indiana. Looking through the exact same type evidence— ashes found in a pile behind Richard Allen’s backyard shed.
NOTE Any common sense thinking person is going to know these two ash sifting events— ties these two locations together— a tentacle perhaps. This is by far is the most obvious coincidence that ties it all together. No sooner was Richard Allen arrested— and the Carroll County prosecutor is in court telling the judge they suspect “other actors” are involved.
I thought it would be fun to include a post I made a year ago that was deleted by a moderator on the L&A sub not long after Richard Allen was arrested. I always wondered why the moderator went so incredibly far back to delete my original post concerning evidence thrown in the Wabash River, which is completely gone now. But alas there still remains some of the comments to the post about evidence being thrown in the Wabash River behind the Canal street house.
[Continued in Part 2]
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You and your son, who had been catfishing a smart young 14 year old girl from that small town. It defies logic that people think it’s all just one big coincidence. That is your son catfishing this young girl and her friends. The fact the catfishing account your son created just so happened to be up bright and early that Monday morning. Your son who has never held a real job—let alone roll out of bed before noon on a Monday. Besides we know your son blocked this young Delphi girl. So why is he suddenly up chatting on a Monday morning.
Could it be that “daddy” man was obsessing that Monday. Obsessing that he was going to be arrested if anyone tracked that fake catfishing account, that had been exploiting and grooming young vulnerable teenage girls in Miami County and the surrounding counties. I couldn’t imagine a 22 year old unemployed man/boy worried about much of anything on an early Monday morning. Except of course whether or not the angry old man he’d been living with all that winter was going to spring for a healthy Hardee’s lunch once his tummy starts to grumble.
It’s no coincidence the anthony_shots catfishing account was chatting with Libby that morning.
It’s no coincidence the UAW “daddy” man had Monday’s off.
It’s no coincidence someone known for peeping in little girl windows was seen peeping in LIbby’s friends window the following Monday—- the event that exposed a killer.
It’s no coincidence the “daddy” man was panicking that weekend and Monday. Elliot Shoffner had a an army of FBI agents on him at 7:20AM February 10, 2017 after leaving a graveyard shift at a local manufacturing plant in Kokomo, Indiana.
It’s no coincidence someone had access to a purple PT Cruiser described in Richard Allen’s arrest probable cause affidavit. Perhaps that purple PT Cruiser was caught on that Hoosier Harvestore security camera. Who knows why that purple PT Cruiser is mentioned in that arrest PCA.
It’s no coincidence both men came from that tiny town of Mexico. Indiana— including someone’s wife who was from that same tiny town. A wife whose brother and caretaker of their mother had just been buried in that small town of Mexico that late Fall. A wife distracted that winter taking care of her mother and no time to keep her husband of 25 years in line.
It’s no coincidence the “daddy” man lived in Young America for many years— just a few minutes away from that hiking trail and dangerous bridge. A guy that loves to hunt— recognizing the perfect hunting ground.A 70’ high abandoned and dilapidated railroad bridge that led nowhere. A trap.
It’s no coincidence one of the most likely suspects in the fiendishly brutal murders of two teenage girls had a criminal record for sadistically beating and stalking young children.
It’s no coincidence that same man lived less than two miles from that Kelly Street Bridge in Peru Indiana where the Indiana State Police held one of the most extensive searches in that law enforcement agencies history.
It’s no coincidence that man’s son sitting in jail for two plus years was suddenly rumored to be seen at that bridge with two ISP detectives shortly before that search in the muddy Wabash River began.
It’s no coincidence that Wabash River search began and suddenly the nephew/cousin was picked up on a year old DUI warrant by US Marshals and held over for one week. No doubt someone that saw the two of them in that purple PT Cruiser, that day when the phone was left near a house on Country Club Rd.
It’s no coincidence the Wabash River search ended on an early Monday afternoon, and no doubt whatever was found took a quick helicopter trip to the nearest large airport and a trip to Quantico FBI Forensics lab.
It’s no coincidence just a week after the Wabash River search ends the same ISP investigators show up on Paw Paw Pike in Peru sifting through ashes in a backyard of a relative of the two men who have their names all over that Wabash River search.
It’s no coincidence the ISP had no sooner wrapped up that week long ash sifting party in Peru, and they are seen in the early predawn hours behind a house on Whiteman Road— 40 miles away in Delphi, Indiana. Looking through the exact same type evidence— ashes found in a pile behind Richard Allen’s backyard shed.
NOTE Any common sense thinking person is going to know these two ash sifting events— ties these two locations together— a tentacle perhaps. This is by far is the most obvious coincidence that ties it all together. No sooner was Richard Allen arrested— and the Carroll County prosecutor is in court telling the judge they suspect “other actors” are involved.
I thought it would be fun to include a post I made a year ago that was deleted by a moderator on the L&A sub not long after Richard Allen was arrested. I always wondered why the moderator went so incredibly far back to delete my original post concerning evidence thrown in the Wabash River, which is completely gone now. But alas there still remains some of the comments to the post about evidence being thrown in the Wabash River behind the Canal street house.
[Continued in Part 2]
2023.03.27 19:03 drew1111 Ann Richards, formerly exhumed from the Texas State Cemetery, has announced it's/her bid for Houston Mayor!
Lina Hidalgo is stepping down from her cushie Harris County Judge role to run Ann's campaign. Campaign contributions are being accepted at all Harris County Toll Road authority stations along the toll roads. Contributions >$1,000 will be sent a glossy black and white photo of Lina's feet in the "Daisy" fountain off Allen Parkway.
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2023.03.27 18:58 R4whatevs Austin Sanders @daustinsanders · 1h ICYMI over the weekend. Austin Police Department body cam footage shows the arrest of Karen McGee, a 71-year-old deaf woman traveling from Austin to Florida. She sat in the Travis County Jail for three days; while there, an employee broke her arm.
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2023.03.27 18:52 FF2001Vapor Does your job let you leave work if tones drop?
Here's a couple questions for you guys and gals. I'm a volunteer firefighter for my county, mostly unincorporated areas. Call volume consists mostly of MVAs, gas detections, medicals etc in the winter, and in the summer its mostly wildland with the other stuff thrown in every once in a while. We run about 200-300 of our own calls a year, and ~150ish mutual aid calls a year.
The first question is: Does your job let you leave work if tones drop? My job does not, mostly because I work at a DHS regulated site, where there needs to be a minimum of two security officers on duty 24/7. So unless someone comes and replaces me, I can't go. (I've spoken to my supervisor, and both of us agree, unless hell is rising [I'm thinking something like California's 'Camp Fire' from 2018] and firefighters are needed, I won't leave work. I'll call someone in if available, and wait for them to arrive before leaving.)
Second question: (I don't think this breaks rule #1 but if it does I'll remove it from the post) Career wise, I'm currently applying for the county's detention center (AKA County Jail). I've thought about it for a long time, and can't seem to find any issues with working for the county and volunteering. Does anyone have any insight on if this is a good/bad idea? Is there anything that would under normal circumstances stop me from doing so?
Thanks in advance, mostly curious about your opinions on the matters.
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The first question is: Does your job let you leave work if tones drop? My job does not, mostly because I work at a DHS regulated site, where there needs to be a minimum of two security officers on duty 24/7. So unless someone comes and replaces me, I can't go. (I've spoken to my supervisor, and both of us agree, unless hell is rising [I'm thinking something like California's 'Camp Fire' from 2018] and firefighters are needed, I won't leave work. I'll call someone in if available, and wait for them to arrive before leaving.)
Second question: (I don't think this breaks rule #1 but if it does I'll remove it from the post) Career wise, I'm currently applying for the county's detention center (AKA County Jail). I've thought about it for a long time, and can't seem to find any issues with working for the county and volunteering. Does anyone have any insight on if this is a good/bad idea? Is there anything that would under normal circumstances stop me from doing so?
Thanks in advance, mostly curious about your opinions on the matters.
2023.03.27 18:46 Whey-Men North Carolina - A bill before the legislature would pay for two full-time jail inspectors to examine county detention facilities across the state.
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