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2023.04.01 05:43 Dryadversity The third color of gloam, how flower colors hint that Melina is St. Trina, and the color of St. Trina's third eye; (the colors of gloam pt. 2)
I'm going to be covering these topics out of order, with respect to their sequence in the title. Also, apologies in advance for retreading some of the ground from my previous submissions.submitted by Dryadversity to EldenRingLoreTalk [link] [comments]
How flower colors support the theory that Melina is St. Trina
This is something I later added to my recent theory on gloam, but I also thought it was interesting enough to warrant its own post. In that submission, I posited that gloam is actually two colors, primarily: purple—or indigo, as I suggested and tried to explain in an appendment at the bottom—and faded or tarnished gold.
Something I noticed about these colors that they are prominently associated with, and almost equivalent to, the color schemes of Miquella and St. Trina: Miquella is associated with gold, and St. Trina with purple. Now, Miquella is actually primarily represented by unalloyed gold, which realistically does not fade or tarnish. However, Miquella's lilies are indeed described as faded, just like the dusky erdleaf flowers mentioned in that post.
The first line of the description for Miquella's lily reads: "A delicate water lily of unalloyed gold that has started to fade and wilt."
These lilies, I believe, are massively important visual hints as to the identity of Melina and St. Trina.
Miquella's lily (faded gold) and St. Trina's lily (purple)
Melina's faded gold eye, and purple-indigo eye
Note that Miquella's and Trina's lily are found directly adjacent to each other in the crafting materials menu, matching the positioning of Melina's eyes. However, I did change the order of the lilies in the picture shown; in the menu, Trina's lily is found on the left, and Miquella's on the right. That being said, there might be a way to resolve this minor discrepancy: Even though the flowers and eyes appear to be ordered differently, this is only true if we base our judgment on our own perspective; Melina's gloam eye is on our right, but it's really her left eye, which corresponds with Trina's lily being on the left. The same is true for Miquella's lily and Melina's golden eye.
It's also interesting to look at Miquella's lily alongside the golden sunflower, which by the way, are also placed right next to each other in the menu, in the same order shown below.
golden sunflower and St. Trina's lily
The sunflower resembles Melina's gold eye, as well as an eclipse. Plus, if you ask me, the spiraling petals of Trina's lily on the right have a slight resemblance to the crow's talons on Melina's indigo eye.
Another important piece of evidence is the description for the golden sunflower. It reads: "At the foot of the Erdtree, they retain their color, along with a powerful holy essence."
This is the same phrasing we hear from Melina when describing her origins: "The Erdtree...is close. Only a little further till the foot of the Erdtree, and the accord is fulfilled. It takes me back. I was born at the foot of the Erdtree. Where mother gave me my purpose." You may recall that Melina also maintains certain attributes at the foot of the Erdtree: namely, her ability to "govern her own movement", and also, it seems, her memory (since memories are gold, and the Erdtree is made of them).
Below you can see how gold and purple flowers are clustered together in the item menu. I checked that this is the proper order, and that there are no missing crafting materials between the flowers in this row.
a full row of purple and golden flowers
Yet another pairing that makes sense is tha of the grave violet and tarnished golden sunflower. As I've said, Melina's golden eye is faded, or tarnished. (In case it's not clear why I consider faded and tarnished gold to be close enough, here's one reason: Godfrey's eyes, which are golden, faded at the moment he became Tarnished.) The grave violet of course relates to death, which Melina threatens us with after her sealed eye opens. Additionally, Melina has links to ghostflame through the crow's foot on her eye, since crows and deathbirds are shown to be connected in the description for the Ravenmount clothing set. Finally, Melina is also linked to spirit calling, since it appears she is Torrent's former master, and we know it was from this person that Ranni received the spirit calling bell.
I should also mention, as I already have in my dedicated post on Melina and St. Trina connections, that there is a second pair of colors important to Miquella and Melina, in addition to gold and purple. These colors are black and white. In this case however, the pairing is a complementary contrast, and shows how the two characters differ from each other.
Melina is strongly linked with the color black; she wears a black robe, and her hair turns black in the Frenzied Flame ending. There's also the fact that her indigo eye resembles a black hole, which I discussed a while back in my theories on gravity's connection to the Gloam-Eyed Queen. Miquella, by contrast, is color-coded white. His infant form is mostly white (along with gold), and his cocoon is white, as are his robes in the DLC image.
I would summarize the color schemes of Melina and Miquella like this: Miquella is purple and gold + white, and Melina is purple and gold + black.
I'd like to mention one other thing for this section, and that's the general floral connection between Melina and St. Trina, regardless of the flowers' colors. St. Trina's torch depicts a flower above her head, and Melina uses a skill called Miranda's Prayer, which references the miranda flowers in name and in the style of the attack. Furthermore, there is a relief in Elphael that I believe depicts St. Trina rising out of miranda flower. (I discuss this relief extensively in my recent post on Elphael.) So even if the flowers weren't the same colors, I still think the shared association with flowers hints at Melina being St. Trina.
The third color of gloam
The user The_Deep_Dark_Abyss pointed out to me in the comment section of my aforementioned gloam post that the Age of the Duskborn ending depicts the Lands Between without a sun. They interpreted this as stemming from the eclipse, which is integral to Godwyn's story, and has a non-trivial resemblance to the mending rune of the Death Prince (particularly the drained eclipse depiction). Their idea was that the Age of the Duskborn has a darkened sky because of the eclipse.
I don't think they agreed with my linking of the Duskborn ending to gloam; but to me the connections are well-evidenced, especially in light of their observations of the shading in this ending. To me, the word 'dusk' in Duskborn clearly suggests an association or equivalence with gloam, since 'gloam' and 'dusk' are regarded as synonymous by most dictionaries and thesauruses.
The conclusion I reached is that dusk might also be represented as grey. This is the color of the sky in the Duskborn ending. I think it would make sense for grey to be another form of gloam, because sunlight is often portrayed as white, and in opposition to the black of night. And black and white of course make grey.
The Erdtree and sky in the Age of the Duskborn ending
There is a potential connection as well to the color-drained eclipse, which is white and black; even though I think the colored, tarnished-gold eclipse makes a bit more sense for an age in which Godwyn (the Golden) has some kind of authority. Maybe this is in fact the case? Is the Erdtree itself providing the gold, making the overall scene one of tarnished gold?
This makes quite a bit of sense. However, there's something that deserves special attention in this scene: the leaves. I remember learning from someone that the phrase "The fallen leaves tell a story" is actually saying that the inhabitants of the Lands Between can understand their history and the current order by examining the fallen leaves of the Erdtree, which change color along with the Erdtree itself. Something interesting is that the fallen leaves of the Erdtree seen in Leyndell before the game's ending are already black and gold. This appears to remain the case in the Dung Eater's ending.
In the Duskborn ending, we can see both colors of leaves: golden leaves in the Erdtree (shown in the picture above), and black/grey leaves on the ground, seen below. However, the latter—i.e. the "fallen leaves" are exclusively black/grey.
Grey/black fallen leaves; I think grey is the better descriptor, since you can see what black looks like in Fia's deathbed dress on the right.
If it's the fallen leaves that tell a story, these might ultimately have more significance. The developers could have just left the fallen leaves black and gold. So, while there are valid counterarguments, I think there's still a case to be made that one color of gloam is grey, in addition to gold and purple.
(Actually, since I've been equating black/grey a few times... I had the [probably wrong] idea that the tarnished part of the gold could in some cases be grey, not black. If this were true, it would mean that one color of gloam, tarnished gold, would itself be composed of another color of gloam, grey. While I can't say I'm convinced of this myself, it would match even better with Melina's golden eye, which is more greyed than blackened.)
Now, I personally believe this third form of gloam being black + white has greater significance and ties into other notable color pairings in the game, which I'll do my best to explain now.
In the same comment section on post I mentioned, M00n_Slippers made the astounding observation that the color pairing of blue and red, which make purple (gloam), is perfectly mirrored by the combination of black and gold, which as I suggested in the post, also make gloam. This is because black and blue are suggested in some places in the game to be synonymous (e.g. the blue crest heater shield), in the same way that red and gold are described by the game as different manifestations of the same substance.
Trying to fill out the framework, I suggested that white might have a relationship to red that mirrors the relationship of black to blue, which I think is evidenced by the association of white and gold in Miquella's design, as well as in the red and white of the red crest heater shield. I speculated red and white might be linked through their associations with purity, since fire purifies; this is expressed in the incantation "Flame, Cleanse Me". In similar fashion, blood is used for cleansing in religious rituals. Finally, one could make comparisons between the Golden Order in Elden Ring and the Way of White in Dark Souls. (Some might object that the Golden Order opposes white because they persecute the Albinaurics, but I would say their issue is with silver, not white itself.)
So, in my view, there are three different manifestations of the color red, and three different manifestations of blue, which together create three different colors of gloam. In each of these dyads I'll list the red-associated color first, and then the blue-associated one. 1). The first pairing is red and blue which make purple or indigo; 2). the second is gold and black which make tarnished or faded gold, and 3.) the third is white and black (again), which mix to create grey. There is a bit of asymmetry here in that silver is not used once while black is used twice, but I still think this is the most complete framework so far.
St. Trina's three eyes
If Melina is St. Trina, then we already know one of her eyes is indigo, and another is faded gold. But if there are 3 colors of gloam, and St. Trina has 3 eyes in her torch depiction, one could infer that the third eye of St. Trina is the only color not yet seen in Melina's eyes: grey.
A reasonable counterargument is the middle eye of St. Trina on the torch is likely purple, because this eye appears purple when illuminated by the torch's purple flames. This was a major hint of a connection between St. Trina and the Gloam-Eyed Queen, that I think most people, including myself, didn't notice. (Well, I did notice the commonalities of stone and purple, but not the purple eye more specifically.)
St. Trina's middle eye, self-illuminated with purple firelight
Another thing we should take into account, is that the design of St. Trina on this torch is a mythological reference to Medusa, who turned her victims to stone (petrified them) by looking them in the eyes. In Elden Ring, purple is color-coded with the theme of fear; and since St. Trina only has one exposed eye on the torch, it would make more sense, functionally, if the middle eye was in fact purple; because she could use it (through purple's fearful attributes) to drive fear into her enemies.
So, I understand there's an argument to be made it's the middle eye that's supposed to be purple. On the other hand: it's been pointed out that the right eye on the torch (the figure's left eye) has a black marking under it, which highly resembles the crow's foot on Melina's eye. And we know that it's the crow's foot eye that's indigo. If this scarred eye is purple or indigo, and the other concealed eye is gold, then I think the third eye in the middle might be grey—which would make some intuitive sense, since the eye is in fact grey, due to the torch being made of stone.
St. Trina's torch depiction and middle eye, without the purple flames
Since the only visible eye seen on the torch is grey, I think this lends some credence—with considerable counterevidence, I'm aware—that the third eye of St. Trina is grey, and the third color of gloam.
Since this submission is something like a modification of my previous theory on gloam, I wanted to share another idea that I have also since appended to that post.
The idea I added was based on that same comment by The_Deep_Dark_Abyss, and a theory by miirshroom on a different post. The_Deep_Dark_Abyss mentioned there might be some link between the Japanese characters translated as gloam and the time between dusk and midnight, which reminded me that even the English word gloam is sometimes defined in this way. I related this to miishroom's theory, which is that gloam could be more like the spectrum of colors associated with dusk. My conclusion was that if gloam is technically or sometimes defined as between dusk and midnight, and gloam can have various levels of red and blue as miirshroom suggested, then it makes sense for Melina's eye to be more indigo than purple, because the Elden Ring clock represents night as blue, and dusk as purple. The time in between would be indigo.
I wrote more about this idea on that original post, if you'd like to read more about what I think this choice of color communicates. Here you can find the post, as well as some of the comments that influenced the developments in my perspective on this topic: https://www.reddit.com/EldenRingLoreTalk/comments/124eetz/gloam_is_definitely_purple_but_it_might_be/
Here's an updated post on all the reasons I think Melina is St. Trina. I've added a lot to this since first posting it (at least 6 points); I'm now up to 20 points of evidence: https://www.reddit.com/Eldenring/comments/11pra1some_contributions_to_the_melina_is_st_trina_is/
The Elphael post containing analysis of the woman and flower relief: https://www.reddit.com/EldenRingLoreTalk/comments/11r2o1i/elphael_theories_and_observations_on_various/
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